Hell Club

[Shuggy 8]

Well said. If people dont like Hell or Eden just dont go. No point crying on here. If you consider going for a soapy will cost you around 2000 baht including tip then the cost of 2 ladies doing whatever you want is not that bad. Just my view on it.

 

 

Totally agree with you. Some people seem to make it thier purpose on this board to slag off Hell Club. Do they have a hidden agenda or what? If you don't like it fine, but why harp on about it over and over and over again? What are you trying to prove? Heard you first time.

 

I know several people who have visited Hell Club and have tried whats on offer. (instead of just going in, checking out the layout and leaving.) Everyone of those people have had nothing but good things to say about it. Two guys described it as one of the most amazing experiences of thier lives (and these are hardened mongers)

 

And for the record I am in no way affiliated with Hell Club. I havent sampled whats on offer in Hell but I will. I promise you i will let the board know my opinion of the place but I won't harp on about it like others here seem to do.

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

The Hell/Eden model works. If you dont like it, dont go. Simple..

 

Bill-

 

I agree with you 100% - not with Ned Kelly or touristman.

 

But I hope someone (I wonder who?) will keep handing them ammunition so they can shoot themselves in the foot a few more times. Let the good times roll!

 

 

 

 

Evil

 

[lovercannes 0]

for what i have seen...

the owner of the hell club put cards on the table and dont hide policy to customer... that is the first and only rule in buisness...the second is : if you dont like it dont go for it...

as i say in a previous post, me and my friend will be at the hell club for our first visit ( not in pattaya but in the club ) the 13th april at 2PM.. then 90mn later i will be able to say if i will come back or not ( maby 10mn after if all the girls are ugly...lol but for what i have read i doubt it ) ....

 

cheers

[stevoman 2]

Stevoman,

 

A post from a guy who visited Pattaya many years ago,and also questions why he should pay a massive 200 Baht for a free lancer in a Beer Bar.{Taken from your history on this board}

 

And you try to support Hell who charge way over the top prices for the service.

 

By the way,good luck in the Rugby World Cup,i think it will be the All Blacks or the Frogs,with Ireland as the team to cause an upset.

 

Ned

 

The FACT that I object to paying a B/F for freelancers really has fuck all to do with this thread!Secondly I did visit Pattaya many years ago,however JFYI I also have visited 3 times in the last 1 year,each time staying for 30 days!

My comments are purely based on VALUE for money,which I consider to be excellent,nogood then simply no pay.Just consider that you can pay 600+B/F at a gogo and a further 2000 for a S/T with a fair chance of getting a "Starfish", and for just 400 bht more you get 8 hours of sheer GUARANTEED FILTH,I know which I will be choosing again!

BTW we do agree on the Rugby.

Edited March 6, 2007 by stevoman

[Evades 0]

I was down on Soi 6 yesterday to experience the fun and I was not able to find two girls that had dildos that they were willing to use. Sorry, I only do multiples as I like to watch the ladies play and you do not get that service on Soi 6 in the normal course of the business. I gave up trying to get this kind of service at the go-go bars. A lot of playing at the lesbian acts but not the carry through that I seek.

 

Two ladies, 90 minutes at your service for the amount they charge is cheap and I have mongered on six of the seven continents of this world.

 

I converse with them by pointing, arranging and moving them around. They learn pretty quick what I am looking for.

 

Have a Great Day,

 

Evades

[beerforme 0]

I was down on Soi 6 yesterday to experience the fun and I was not able to find two girls that had dildos that they were willing to use. Sorry, I only do multiples as I like to watch the ladies play and you do not get that service on Soi 6 in the normal course of the business. I gave up trying to get this kind of service at the go-go bars. A lot of playing at the lesbian acts but not the carry through that I seek.

 

Two ladies, 90 minutes at your service for the amount they charge is cheap and I have mongered on six of the seven continents of this world.

 

I converse with them by pointing, arranging and moving them around. They learn pretty quick what I am looking for.

 

Have a Great Day,

 

Evades

 

What's wrong with Antarctica?

I assume you haven't mongered there!

[don_dadda 0]

What's wrong with Antarctica?

I assume you haven't mongered there!

Nothing like ice cold pussy

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

Nothing like ice cold pussy

 

 

"I don't know but I've been told,

Eskimo pussy is mighty cold."

 

Of course, the Inuits live in the Arctic, not the Antartica, but nevertheless it's very cold. I was on Greenland in the 1970s and the ladies there were probable the most promiscuous in the world. The old joke used to be that you paid them to take a bath, the sex you got for free. The older Inuits never bathed, but the more urbanized younger ones took a bath about every three or four months. I don't how it is today, but that's what it was like back then.

 

It really made me appreciate the fixation TGs have for cleanliness and personal hygiene.

 

 

Evil

 

Edited March 6, 2007 by Evil Penevil

[beerforme 0]

"I don't know but I've been told,

Eskimo pussy is mighty cold."

 

Of course, the Inuits live in the Arctic, not the Antartica, but nevertheless it's very cold. I was on Greenland in the 1970s and the ladies there were probable the most promiscuous in the world. The old joke used to be that you paid them to take a bath, the sex you got for free. The older Inuits never bathed, but the more urbanized younger ones took a bath about every three or four months. I don't how it is today, but that's what it was like back then.

 

It really made me appreciate the fixation TGs have for cleanliness and personal hygiene.

Evil

 

 

I think seeing as there is no indigenous population on Antarctica, only a bunch of hairy scientists and explorers, we'll give you the northern hemisphere version as a point. By the way, you were a brave man back then!

[riri 0]

Hi Everyone

There seems to be a debate about the price at hell Club? For some, it might be to expensive. I can understand that. What I want to know is the number of people who have been at the Hell and have not been satisfied with the service. I have been to soi 6. It is true, the price are cheaper, but are you going to get the service you want? How many of them will change their mind once the money is paid? If you have been reading the threads on this forum, there is quite a high percentage who have not got the service they wanted.

 

In Melbourne, for example you pay $ 100 up front for 30 mins with one lady. Some of them will charge $300. What do you get? You would be lucky if you get 1/100th of the service offerred at the Hell. At the Hell, you pay $120 for two ladies plus on top of that you are sure to get the services you want.. There are heaps what I would like to do with the ladies... .

 

There seem to be some people who are complaining about the policies at the Hell. I wont mention any name. Have they been there first before they start complaining?

 

In Septrember, the Hell is on my list.

Edited March 7, 2007 by riri

[BillWilson 10]

There seem to be some people who are complaining about the policies at the Hell. I wont mention any name. Have they been there first before they start complaining?

 

The very nature of any board is that many who pontificate have little or know 1st hand knowledge.

Or tried something once, had a less than good experiance, and make the assumption that their experiance is the norm

 

example:

just read a TR on another board about Soi 6

gent claimed it was a bust and no ladies.............

 

as for Hell/Eden..........

spent 18 months w/ a girl from Eden after my first trip..................

(yes Ladies, i learnd alot)

[ryobi1 0]

[quote

 

Services that you would like to perform with the ladies :

 

Oral Sex Bare XXX

Cum on Face XXX

Rimming XXX

Uniform Play XXX

Cum in Mouth XXX

Vaginal Sex (with Condom) XXX

Lesbian performance XXX

Vaginal Fingering XXX

Anal Sex (with Condom)

Anal Fingering

Spanking

Light Bondage

Pee on Body

Pee in Mouth

Foot worship

Services you want the ladies to perform on you :

 

Bare Back Blowjob (BBBJ) XXX

Rimming XXX

Use toys (Strap-on , dildo's ,etc... ) XXX

Anal Fingering XXX

Cum Sharing XXX

Spanking

Light Bondage

Pee on Body

Pee in mouth

Deep Throat

Foot worship

 

ABOUT VIP MEMBERSHIPS

VIP = 20.000 B

10 free ladies

15% discount on customers drinks

+

As long as your card is not full

Priority on the bookings , choice of ladies

Priority on the rooms

 

ABOUT MEDICAL

all the ladies have medical records

each month for HIV and SYPHILIS

each week for STD

All test carried out by a 9001 qualified clinic and reports to the Club.

 

ALL THE CHECKS ARE TO BE SEEN ANYTIME IN THE CLUB

 

ABOUT WEBSITE

In progress:

www.thehellclub.com

 

ABOUT PICTURES

Sorry but the deal with the ladies is no pictures on the net and no more sex pictures since some guys used it to do business on the net the ladies have a right to privacy and i respect that

 

ABOUT LONG TIME

The ladies go long time only starting 10pm to 6am at 3000b.

 

Full day is an option but ONLY if the ladies agree to go, In this case the price will be 7000b so the ladies won't be losing too much money if they have to go outside early day time or many days.

.

 

HOPING YOU FOUND ALL YOUR ANSWERS

see you in Hell

Cerberus

 

I walked by your place last time I was in patts (Feb07), but the girls were outside enjoying the fare that the venders were offering, so I am sure you might not have been open....

now my question is....when you see this list of services, do you check off the services you want performed, or do you just tell them as you enter the room.....

it does sound like an interesting endeavor, and look forward to checking in and checking it out when I am there in April

 

cheers

[Cerberus 97]

ryobi1,

 

the triple xxx items everybody does so take your choice and head on into the joy of "Hell", items not covered by the triple xxx's some ladies do - some ladies don't so just ask to see the in-house menu and we will point out those that can please you best

 

cerberus

[alan lad 0]

hi guys

 

Well this is not my place,as you all know i have a gogo on walking street.

 

How ever credit were credit is due guys "HELL CLUB" is one hot place.

 

Ned (hi mate) yes this place is not for everyone,and at times many may not understand all that goes on BUT it is there place to run and make up there own rules.

 

Ned the one thing i can say is that the "HELL CLUB" is nothing like ANY THING will find at soi 6. In fact the hell club is more like every thing you would find if you were able to put all the bars in soi 6 together ,strap ons, dilldos , bi girls butt sex etc etc .

 

Is 3600 bt costly for knowing that you will get 100% of what you want? Is a bar owner who keeps trying to keep prices down i dont think it is costly at all. Look at it this way get 1 girl from a bar and you will pay (beer bar and many cost more than this) 300 -500 bar fine girl 1000 -1500 + 1500 - 2000 and that is for 1 girl with out buying drinks or any thing else . Think about it ?

 

Guys i have been asked on another board why i would stick up for another place that might take away $$ from my place ? Well "HELL CLUB" is not the same as mine as such i think that the more owners all work together we can improve pattayas p4p service for all. Hey after your work out in HELL come have a drink in my place and see if one of my girls can get you back up and running again.

 

To wrap up ,guy please do drop into HELL and try it once all the guys i have taken down there have all come back with a smile on there face ( some times it is not what you spend ; but what you get for your money)

 

I am only to happy to take any of my guests down to HELL as part of my customer service policy.

 

alan

[Rhoel 2]

You are shown the door if less than two ladies .... 90 min. duration, unlimited sessions ... 3,600 baht for two ladies

 

see you in Hell

Cerberus

 

I had considered visiting Hell Club during my visit next month: Having read the house new rules, I'll skip the visit. 90 min, 1800 1 girl, fine - I like that kind of service - similar to Pandora's or Syori {spelling] up here in CM.

 

But paying double rate for 90 minutes simply isn't something I'll consider, it's not for me. The policy is a good one from a business point of view ... Hell gets twice the revenue whilst paying the same wages and overheads. The business question is, "How many customers will not pay for double". If it's only 49% of potential customers who walk away, then Hell's revenue will still be up. But if the refusal rate is 51%, Hell looses.

 

For me, I not going to Hell.

 

Rhoel

[TALBOTMAN 0]

IN EXACTLY 14 days time i will be arriving in pattaya for my 26th visit so i am not naive or a newbie i just find some of the posts on this thread absurd and totaly stupid one thing stands out for a fact all the guys who visit pattaya have different tastes and agendas some are looking to top the butterfly league some are after a girl long time myself i have had long term girls in los but now dont want anymore so i dont take a girl for anymore than 2 nights.

 

regarding hell/eden clubs i have only been to eden club one time i enjoyed it but to be honest it was not quite my thing so have never ever been back whereas my friend who comes with me loves the place and goes there about 6 times each visit have never been to hell club but i will definately pay it a visit in a couple of weeks time just so as i can then make a valid comment on the place

 

personally regarding soi6 and welcome inn these places i just dont like i dont feel comfortable or happy in these areas BUT THAT IS MY OPINION ! but i would not slag the places off because i realise that it suits other guys so its a free world iff you dont like a place dont go but dont slag it off !

 

i personally like daytimes at nevada/far east rock/classroom/kittens i know it wont suit everyone but i am there to make myself happy not anyone else

 

i just think that NED KELLY coming on here and slagging off punters who want to go to hell/eden club is out of order its a free world mate we all are big boys who can make our own decisions so you keep going to the soi6 /welcome inn and leaVE OTHERS TO FREELY GO WHERE THEY CHOSE !

[Cerberus 97]

Rhoel mate,

For me, I not going to Hell.

 

No problem, that is you exercising free will.

 

Just as I am, in my choice of business practice, the Eden and Hell Clubs specialise in a two + lady experience and as I express so very frequently, it is not for everybody.

 

Obviously you prefer a single partner,

1 girl, fine - I like that kind of service

I do not begrudge nor judge/critize you for that, nor do I get excited about the accountancy of the places you elect to frequent.

 

It never ceases to amaze me why people feel that because others do not share their view they must be fools, naive, newbies etc.

 

The Hell Club has an ever increasing number of very satisfied customers, and all that choose to report on their experience express extremily high levels of satisfaction and feel that they have received excellent service

 

It is my sincere wish that you are as satisfied with wherever and whatever lights your fire, just as our customers are.

 

Cerberus

[Rhoel 2]

Rhoel mate,

No problem, that is you exercising free will.

 

Just as I am, in my choice of business practice, the Eden and Hell Clubs specialise in a two + lady experience and as I express so very frequently, it is not for everybody.

 

Cerberus

Thanks for the reply.

 

I am fully aware that all owners of any business need feedback, good or bad, on their place/policies. Some posts here are a little O.T.T or myopic, or an unreasonable comparison with chalk and cheese.

 

When you first posted the menu etc, I placed Hell on the probable things to do in town. Your later post/s outlining the "two girls or piss off" policy was a turn-off for me. I'm just being honest, I felt that I am being deprived of my choice. I am just wondering how many other people ruled out a visit once they heard of the compulsory threesome. In my case, I have been 3-up before .. it's not something I want to do every time.

 

But it's your place to run as you see fit and I am not really questioning that. I'm just expressing my disappointment over the lack of customer choice.

 

Incidentally, Alan's recent comments about NLD1, and Hammer's posts in general have made me add their places as somewhere I will go have a beer ... I like their attitude.

 

But let's be clear, I have no animosity either with you or Hell - I wish you every success with the place.

 

But your lack of personal choice is not for me.

 

Chock dee.

 

 

Rhoel

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

Gentlemen-

I am impressed and that doesn't happen all that often. In this thread we've had insightful comments from Evades, alan ladd, Talbotman, stevoman, brotherbuzz, BigDUSA, Bill Wilson, s.morelli, Shuggy, lovercannes and riri. That's a very impressive list, covering all points of compass and diverse approaches to the Pattaya experience, yet all of them say the same thing: Hell/Eden may not be for everyone, but it is certainly an option for some punters.

In response to excessively harsh comments from two lame dupe underthinkers, you gentlemen told it like it is with diplomacy and aplomb. I therefore extend you a very respectful tip of the evil pen.

 

 

 

I'm just expressing my disappointment over the lack of customer choice.

 

Rhoel -

 

You expressed your opinion very well. There was nothing in it at which anyone should take umbrage. You simply confirmed that the Hell Club isn't for everyone and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm also concerned with personal choice, but I see it in a somewhat different light. There are many, many places in Pattaya than offer one-lady sessions, but there are few that feature multiple-lady sessions and none that hold the same standard as the Hell Club. From my point of view, as a huge fan of two-or-more-ladies-and- one-guy sessions, it's all those other places which limit my personal choice. It only proves that Hell has a niche to fill in the broad P4P spectrum.

 

And the comments from alan ladd have also perked my interest about his establishment. A visit to NLD1 will be #2 on my things-to-do list next time I'm in Pattaya, right after a return visit to the Hell Club.

 

 

 

Evil

 

[brotherbuzz 3,206]

or an unreasonable comparison with chalk and cheese.

 

I might change it to 'comparing chalk and cheese' but I like that line and I'm gonna use it someday

[riri 0]

I had considered visiting Hell Club during my visit next month: Having read the house new rules, I'll skip the visit. 90 min, 1800 1 girl, fine - I like that kind of service - similar to Pandora's or Syori {spelling] up here in CM.

 

But paying double rate for 90 minutes simply isn't something I'll consider, it's not for me. The policy is a good one from a business point of view ... Hell gets twice the revenue whilst paying the same wages and overheads. The business question is, "How many customers will not pay for double". If it's only 49% of potential customers who walk away, then Hell's revenue will still be up. But if the refusal rate is 51%, Hell looses.

 

For me, I not going to Hell.

 

Rhoel

 

I do not look at it this way. In Melbourne as I said before, you will not get a service for that price. ONe of my dreams is a GUARANTEED threesome. Hell is offering me the possibilty to achieve this at a resasonable price (compared to what offered here). If there was a guarantee that the sultans of soi 6 would offer the same service at a much lower price, I would go in Soi 6. But if you read previous threads, you will notice that quite a high percertage do get the service they were asking for.

 

In Soi 6 for two ladies you would pay AROUND2500 baths including bar fine. In the hell you will be paying 3600 that is an extra of 1200 bahts . That the equivalent of AUD$40.

 

I better pay an extra $40 and fulfill my dream than wonderring WHETHER i WOULD GET A GOOD SERVICE FOR A CHEAPER PRICE.

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

I better pay an extra $40 and fulfill my dream than wonderring WHETHER i WOULD GET A GOOD SERVICE FOR A CHEAPER PRICE.

 

You nailed it right there, riri. At Hell/Eden you pay a little more, but you get (a hell of ) alot more, too. It simply isn't true that you can get the same service elsewhere for less money. Certainly you can get sessions with two or more ladies at other places, but it won't come within light years of what you get at the Hell Club.

 

If you're going to compare prices, make sure you're comparing apples to apples. That's the first big mistake some of the Hell bashers make. Keep in mind that the 3,600B fee covers 90 minutes with two ladies and you can come as many times as you want or are able. Almost everywhere else, you'll be quoted a price for a session that ends when you come and you're allowed only one shot. At the most, it will be 60 minutes with maybe two shots if you pay extra. In terms of pleasure-per-minute and quality of service. But if you think it is better value for money to pay 1,500B or 2,000B for a 15-minute, one-shot session that doesn't include anal or lesbian, that's up to you.

 

The second mistake is that the bashers don't place any value on their own time. In some cases, that's literally true - their time is worthless and I compliment them on both their self-knowledge and honesty. But some of us do value our time, even when on vacation. It's never taken me more than a few minutes to set up any sort of session at Hell or Eden, most often before I even arrive in Thailand. If I have to spend hours to set up a session that in the end would only be a pale shadow of the Eden experience, that isn't a bargain to me.

 

It's not my style to knock places just because I choose not to have sessions there. Suffice it to say I spent many hours on Jan. 18 visiting about 10 different places trying to set up a Hell-style session involving two ladies. It just wasn't possible. Only one place came even close and there I would have paid nearly exactly the same price as Hell, but for two ladies neither of whom spoke more than a few words of English.

 

The third mistake is that no other establishment has a guarantee of service like Hell/Eden. Everywhere else "youse pays yo' money and takes yo' chances." It's not the money angle that worries me but it's hugely disappointing to have a session that turns out nothing like you'd hoped. At Hell you can count on the ladies bending over backwards - literally sometimes - to make sure you have a thrilling time.

 

For all these reasons, Hell comes out on top for me. If you prefer to go elsewhere, that's up to you and I wish you the best. I understand perfectly that not everyone will want to go to Hell or Eden. What I can't fathom is why guys who've never been there and claim state they never will spend so much time and effort to bash Hell/Eden.

 

Evil

 

[touristman 1]

The second mistake is that the bashers don't place any value on their own time. In some cases, that's literally true - their time is worthless and I compliment them on both their self-knowledge and honesty. But some of us do value our time, even when on vacation. It's never taken me more than a few minutes to set up any sort of session at Hell or Eden, most often before I even arrive in Thailand. If I have to spend hours to set up a session that in the end would only be a pale shadow of the Eden experience, that isn't a bargain to me.

 

 

 

where does this crap come from?Condescending, patronising, narcissistic post................whose time is worthless?Are the 'bashers' simply people who have spent longer in Thailand than you and don't agree with your myopic and probably ignorant (have you been to Jade Garden? or any number of places in Pattaya?)assessments.

 

Personally i don't know anyone whose time is 'worthless'.I presume that you mean that they don't work or aren't as time-pressed as 'successful knowledgable people like yourself'...........lol.I see that you compliment (to demean, of course) these 'worthless time' people on their self-awareness and honesty..........I can honestly only lament your lack thereof.Many people who have worked hard and had honest success see their time from the rat race as the most precious.I doubt that you understand this...........your loss.

 

Now lets see how many weeks of the year a ' Hell Club' post is on the front page of this forum.Newbies get your wallets out, it's time to have sex with ugly old hardcore Thai prostitutes.As much and as hardcore as you can get in your 90 minutes in Hell Club's elegant box room.You can even watch porno DVD as you do it..............cutting edge concepts here.

 

Rip-off for newbies who know no better, and a niche for a very small percentage of people who need to pay for this kind of clinical sex and find it difficult to communicate to women in a normal everyday environment IMO.Yes, this post is a little heated..............i wasn't going to post again on this thread, but the you see the crap like that quoted above and you must respond IMO.

[Shuggy 8]

Yawn.

 

where does this crap come from?Condescending, patronising, narcissistic post................whose time is worthless?Are the 'bashers' simply people who have spent longer in Thailand than you and don't agree with your myopic and probably ignorant (have you been to Jade Garden? or any number of places in Pattaya?)assessments.

 

Personally i don't know anyone whose time is 'worthless'.I presume that you mean that they don't work or aren't as time-pressed as 'successful knowledgable people like yourself'...........lol.I see that you compliment (to demean, of course) these 'worthless time' people on their self-awareness and honesty..........I can honestly only lament your lack thereof.Many people who have worked hard and had honest success see their time from the rat race as the most precious.I doubt that you understand this...........your loss.

 

Now lets see how many weeks of the year a ' Hell Club' post is on the front page of this forum.Newbies get your wallets out, it's time to have sex with ugly old hardcore Thai prostitutes.As much and as hardcore as you can get in your 90 minutes in Hell Club's elegant box room.You can even watch porno DVD as you do it..............cutting edge concepts here.

 

Rip-off for newbies who know no better, and a niche for a very small percentage of people who need to pay for this kind of clinical sex and find it difficult to communicate to women in a normal everyday environment IMO.Yes, this post is a little heated..............i wasn't going to post again on this thread, but the you see the crap like that quoted above and you must respond IMO.

[Evil Penevil 7,628]

Now, now touristman. Play nicely with others or you'll end up having to play with yourself. No need to take things so personally. This is a thread on "Inside the Hell Club." Save your heated outbursts for your therapy sessions.

 

whose time is worthless?

I have a real quick answer to that question, complete with a concrete example, but I'll save it for its proper place. Stifle your paranoia, touristman, you're not my example.

 

Are the 'bashers' simply people who have spent longer in Thailand than you and don't agree with your myopic and probably ignorant (have you been to Jade Garden? or any number of places in Pattaya?)assessments.

 

No, the bashers are people who have never had a session at Hell/Eden, usually never even been inside either place, yet write sweeping conclusions about the quality and value of the services offered. And it isn't a question of where I haven't been, but to where you haven't been, namely the Hell Club.

 

I first visited LOS (and Pattaya) in 1979. You were still in elementary school then. I've been back about 75 times since that first trip. I lived 25 years outside the U.S. in a string of countries in Europe, the Middle East and Asia and LOS has always been my main vacation spot. The longest single stretch of time I spent in-country in Thailand was six months back in the 1980s, usually I stay 10 days or two weeks. For the past few years, I've made four trips per year to LOS on a combination of business and pleasure.

 

I certainly don't consider myself an expert, but I'm far from a newbie.I'm very well acquainted with the various options in Pattaya. That's why I can state unequivocally that the standard of service you get at Hell/Eden isn't available elsewhere. I've never been to the Jade Garden, but I have been to the other oft-mentioned alternatives to Hell/Eden. As I stated earlier, it's not my style to bash a place simply because it doesn't offer the kind of session I desire.

 

But maybe you should start a thread on the Jade Garden. Then I could reply without ever having been there, just like you did in the "Inside the Hell Club" thread. Only joking. I'd never write about a place without having seen it first, but I'll make a point of visiting the Jade Garden on my next trip to Pattaya.

 

Personally i don't know anyone whose time is 'worthless'.I presume that you mean that they don't work or aren't as time-pressed as 'successful knowledgable people like yourself'...........lol.I see that you compliment (to demean, of course) these 'worthless time' people on their self-awareness and honesty..........

 

You presume wrong. To people who don't place a value on their time, it is by definition worthless. I was using the term in a very specific sense - comparing the costs at Hell to other, cheaper establishments.

 

Here's a simple example of what I mean. Across the street from my apartment building is Dry Cleaning Shop A. I pass it every day on my way to and from work. It charges $12.00 to dry clean a suit. Dry Cleaning Shop B only charges $8.00 to do the same job, but it would take me 30 minutes to get to Shop B from my apartment. The total cost to me in money and time would be $8,00 plus the 60 minutes it takes to get there and back to Shop B. Since I value 60 minutes of my time much higher than $4.00, it's not worth it for me to take my suits to Shop B. If my neighbor in the next apartment says he uses Shop B because it's $4.00 cheaper, he's not putting any value on his own time. Hence, his time must be worthless to him, at least in determining the total cost of getting a suit dry cleaned. Same-same applies to P4P.

 

 

 

I can honestly only lament your lack thereof.Many people who have worked hard and had honest success see their time from the rat race as the most precious.I doubt that you understand this...........your loss.

 

I understand that very well, that's why I hate wasting time on trying to set up a session that may or may not turn out well. I'd rather spend my time with the ladies than trying to find them. I was using the concept of "worthless time" as a factor in calculating the total cost of a service. Your ill will caused you to read something into it that I'd never written.

 

Now lets see how many weeks of the year a ' Hell Club' post is on the front page of this forum.Newbies get your wallets out, it's time to have sex with ugly old hardcore Thai prostitutes.As much and as hardcore as you can get in your 90 minutes in Hell Club's elegant box room.You can even watch porno DVD as you do it..............cutting edge concepts here.

 

The cutting-edge concept at Hell/Eden is to give the best service in LOS, with the guarantee the customer doesn't pay if dissatisfied. But since you've never been to the Hell Club, how do you know about the age or physical appearance of the ladies? On what basis are you making that statement? Yes, it can be hardcore if you want it that way, especially the in-house experiences. But I prefer L/T take-away and that has given me some of the best GFEs I've ever had. I don't want to tax your precious time or your brain cells (the latter more than the former) too much, but just read the final few paragraphs at this LINK to get an idea of the kind of experiences I've had with the ladies of Hell/Eden

Rip-off for newbies who know no better, and a niche for a very small percentage of people who need to pay for this kind of clinical sex and find it difficult to communicate to women in a normal everyday environment IMO.Yes, this post is a little heated..............i wasn't going to post again on this thread, but the you see the crap like that quoted above and you must respond IMO.

 

I thought you'd already taken back the rip-off accusation in an exchange with Montydog, but here you are repeating it. Never mind, I can easily flip what you say: The Hell Club is exceptionally good value for experienced punters who know Pattaya well and for everyone who wants to pay for top service and doesn't want to waste time hunting for women in beer bars. I certainly don't have problems communicating with (NOT to) women in a "normal everyday environment," I just wonder where you find that environment in Pattaya and at the same time, arrange for an all-night threesome.

 

To everyone but touristman I apologize for the length of this post. I wasn't going to post lengthy replies again on this thread, but when you see the crap like that quoted above, I must respond IMO.

 

The difference between you and me, touristman, is that I didn't get heated. I had fun writing it, with a smile on my face and tongue in cheek.

 

I don't imagine we'll be hearing from you again (a wise decision on your part), but every time you throw down the guantlet, I'll be there to pick it up. BTW, whether you reply or not, I'll keep posting fresh information to this thread about the Hell Club, at least every week. I wouldn't want to disappoint you and papillion.

 

Evil

 

Edited March 12, 2007 by Evil Penevil