Condo with real high speed internet access

[dennismoore 8]

Hi all!

 

A friend of mine plans on staying in Pattaya in september. He needs a high speed internet connection in order to send his orders to his stock broker.

 

Many condo's for rent offer 1024/ 512 (down/ up) internet access, but he rather has something quicker than that. Maybe 4096/1024 but not sure if that possible in Pattaya.

 

Anyone know a View Talay-like condo with good, fast, reliable internet? Much appriciated!

[kdc1899 1]

Is he actually sending orders to a human?

That human will then send the order to the market maker.

The MM will make the trade when he covers the spread over commission point.

Whole lots of time there. He can send an email with a 56K source for that.

 

Even if he is day trading on a web-based trading platform, 512 is more than enough.

 

Which service has the least amount of down time would be the first question I'd have.

[Shilo 371]

I hope you don't mind...

 

But I'd like to see this thread expand a little to cover ALL things related to getting a "quality" internet connection.

 

I'll be making the big move soon and I'll need the best internet connection I can find. Partly related to the stock market but also because the internet has become a major factor in my life. I would guess that between entertainment and research that I might average several hours a day online.

 

So what is needed for a fast connection? I think that I read that you need a condo with a land line. That there were limited land lines to be had and that in some cases that were bought by Thai investors looking to make a quick buck. Is there more then one option for a service provider? Which condo buildings offer the best connections and which should we avoid? And what about cost, is there an hourly rate or is it a flat charge by the month as most of us have here in the states.

 

I'd appreciate any and all info on this subject.

 

Shilo

[MrMango 671]

The problem is not just getting a ADSL signal. ADSL in Thailand has a history of going down for hours (Or days) at a time.

 

Also, just because that you have a 1024 / 512 connection does not men that you will get anywhere near these speeds, especially in the evening when a lot of people are on line.

 

IMHO, anybody who expects a Western style connection is smoking funny cigarettes.

[jacko 8,814]

. I would guess that between entertainment and research that I might average several hours a day online.

Shilo

What is the point of moving to Pattaya then?

[kdc1899 1]

PM Lordflash.

He should be able to tell you which buildings are hardwired and which of those have the reliabli internet providors (if they exist).

 

Often in buildings, folks have wireless routers going. You can usually piggyback off that signal for free.

[Owen` 2]

When it is hot in the middle of the day, use will be heavy. One wonders what the cybercafes do? What do they pay for a T1 line equivalent?

[dennismoore 8]

Is he actually sending orders to a human?

That human will then send the order to the market maker.

The MM will make the trade when he covers the spread over commission point.

Whole lots of time there. He can send an email with a 56K source for that.

 

Even if he is day trading on a web-based trading platform, 512 is more than enough.

 

Which service has the least amount of down time would be the first question I'd have.

 

He's sending his orders to InterActive Brokers. He uses Amibroker for his trades. My friend says he needs to download a lot of (real time) data from eSignal.

 

He sends his orders 1 hour after the NYSE opens and buy his trades then. His system uses "stoporders" (??), which are sent later in the day. I'm not really familair with Amibroker, eSignal nor Interactive Brokers, but he always stresses a good and fast internet connection is a must.

[kdc1899 1]

IA has a great no frills platform. This helps when your internet is under 500K and 2 seconds matter.

Worst case scenario is his streaming data from E-Signal will be 5 seconds late and his IA orders will take 5 seconds to go through.

IA is the best kept secret out there for folks who trade under 1,000 shares at a time.

 

If he is only trading the NYSE he will be fine. 9:30 AM DST is 8:30 PM here. If his building is sharing bandwith then he should be good to go at that time of night.

 

Pattaya should help him relieve some of that stress.

[elef 0]

Also note that internet speed inside Thailand is what you get, the international internet from Thailand is much slower. Check that you really get a faster international internet connection if you increase the adsl speed, most guys I know say no.

[torrenova 644]

I'm on 512/256 in View Talay 2 and for the last 9 months or so, perhaps a bit longer, it has been really reliable and speeds have increased.

[dotcom_OD 0]

There has got to be more than one condo such as VT that has a good wired connection for fast download speeds. Any other input for apartments, condos or hotels?

[dv34917 13]

I have been trading with InteractiveBrokers and other brokers from Pattaya for a couple years now. Speed is not the problem, 512k is sufficient. The problem is reliability. I tried living in about 6 different hotels and condos and there was downtime at everyone of them! Furthermore, don't think that you can just rent a condo and call up and get the phone and internet installed ASAP. That was my naive assumption 2 years ago when I rented at View Talay 2. After 6 weeks, the damn thing still did not work and I had to move to a hotel.

Currently, I live at Bella Villa Prima on Soi 4 because there are 2 other internet cafes that are open late on the same Soi. Usually at least once or twice a month I have to throw the laptop and gear in my bag and head down the street because the Hotel has lost the signal.

Redundancy is way more important than speed. My orders go through instantly on a 512k line. They don't go through at all when the line is DOWN!!

[papillon 695]

Can you not get two internet connections installed in the apartment from different providers?

 

When one goes down the other might still be working.

 

You can combine the bandwidth of the two connections to double your up/down speeds.

 

Maybe there's only one internet provider in Pattaya?

[bifcake 0]

Can you not get two internet connections installed in the apartment from different providers?

 

When one goes down the other might still be working.

 

You can combine the bandwidth of the two connections to double your up/down speeds.

 

Maybe there's only one internet provider in Pattaya?

 

 

There may be a few issues with that.

 

1) Is there more than one company offering DSL services?

 

2) Even if there are more than a single provider, their connection to the Internet may be the same.

 

3) Having two separate connections with two different providers does not double your bandwidth. It simply gives you a back up.

 

4) Since you're talking about a mission critical application, you need some serious equipment to be able to switch seamlessly when one connection goes down. You also need some serious computer knowledge (actually you need data communications knowledge) to set up and maintain this solution.

 

In other words, this isn't trivial.

[kafkaesque 0]

I wish I was a big shot that needed high speed cable to handle my many daily 'orders'

 

I think the current rate to call US on a cell phone is 5 B/ min. Can he swing that?

[papillon 695]

There may be a few issues with that.

 

1) Is there more than one company offering DSL services?

 

2) Even if there are more than a single provider, their connection to the Internet may be the same.

 

3) Having two separate connections with two different providers does not double your bandwidth. It simply gives you a back up.

 

4) Since you're talking about a mission critical application, you need some serious equipment to be able to switch seamlessly when one connection goes down. You also need some serious computer knowledge (actually you need data communications knowledge) to set up and maintain this solution.

 

In other words, this isn't trivial.

 

You are obviously out of your depth here.

 

Either buy a WAN Router for @ US$70 or install two NICs in your PC with Wingate software

[bifcake 0]

You are obviously out of your depth here.

 

Either buy a WAN Router for @ US$70 or install two NICs in your PC with Wingate software

 

Hi,

 

A $70 router will not have the capabilities of handling multiple WAN connections. Furthermore, the other issues that I mentioned still have to be addressed like whether or not the different providers will have the same gateway to the Internet, etc.

 

In any event, as I mentioned earlier, the setup of such a connection is not impossible, but it's not trivial for someone not well versed in data communications.

 

 

Regards

[aqua4 2]

The numbers you are tossing around means little without knowing how many people are sucking on the same line. What you get when you buy a package depends on where you live.

 

With the current 1024/ 512 package from True I get download rates of 90-120kb/s. That is in Bangkok.

 

 

 

This is downloading one of the video off from this website. This is on the 599 Baht a month package.

 

[papillon 695]

Hi,

 

A $70 router will not have the capabilities of handling multiple WAN connections. Furthermore, the other issues that I mentioned still have to be addressed like whether or not the different providers will have the same gateway to the Internet, etc.

 

In any event, as I mentioned earlier, the setup of such a connection is not impossible, but it's not trivial for someone not well versed in data communications.

Regards

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

 

I own a router with multiple WAN connections. There is no setup. Load balancing is automatic so is redundancy. It cost me $80 and I had it shipped to the UK.

 

What's so difficult about that?

[jtiger 9]

With the current 1024/ 512 package from True I get download rates of 90-120kb/s. That is in Bangkok.

This is downloading one of the video off from this website. This is on the 599 Baht a month package.

 

 

You have to be careful if you're talking bits or bytes. The small "b" usually means "bits" and the capital B means bytes.

 

In the pictures it says 108 KB/sec which is thus in bytes and translates to 864 kb/sec (if you assume 8 bits per byte .. there may actually be more bits due to what are called start and stop bits used to mark where a byte begins and ends in some bits streams.).

[papillon 695]

I made a mistake on the price of the WAN Router. I was thinking in Pounds instead of Dollars.

 

It was actually @ £90/$180 which is still cheap for what can be achieved from it.

[bifcake 0]

I made a mistake on the price of the WAN Router. I was thinking in Pounds instead of Dollars.

 

It was actually @ £90/$180 which is still cheap for what can be achieved from it.

 

 

Would you mind posting a link to your router? I can't find one with these features at the price.

 

Thanks

[papillon 695]

Would you mind posting a link to your router? I can't find one with these features at the price.

 

Thanks

 

This is the make/model of the one I bought:

 

Xincom XC-DPG502

 

Google it, they are widely available and cheap.

[bifcake 0]

Hi,

 

Thanks for the link. I checked out the router and whereas it offers a dual WAN connection, it does not double the effective bandwidth. What it does is double the bandwidth capacity. What I mean is this:

 

Suppose you hook up this router to two 512k internet lines. Its load balancing features will not allow you to double your speed to 1mb. In other words, if you're downloading a file, your download speed will still be limited to 512k. What this router will do is allow you to download an additional file at a full 512k speed, rather than share a single 512k connection when downloading two files. So, your capacity is doubled, but your speed is still limited to 512k. Therefore, this router is not a solution to the gentleman's question.

 

There is a way to combine multiple lines to effectively multiply your bandwidth. That requires multiplexors, much more serious routers, and a deep knowledge of data communications. To do THAT is not trivial.

 

I apologize if I wasn't clear in my original post.

Edited April 9, 2007 by bifcake