So, Is Pattaya Better for you, Worse, or the same?

[Parkwahn 61]

"pattaya for the unskilled working man is shot now"

I am not so sure this will be a bad thing for pattaya having seen some of the behaviour. Perhaps they will go back to holidaying in spain again?

"

 

 

I would agree I have seen a few guys act like complet goons, no wonder the girls dislike them.

[Yzi 72]

I would agree I have seen a few guys act like complet goons, no wonder the girls dislike them.

Don't bring it here, keep it in the ghetto.

[VicVegas 70]

Different but same.

 

8 years ago I could get a girl long time for 1000 baht. Paid the same last month.

 

Prices of many things have gone up a bit, and the exchange rate has gotten worse, but now I'm smarter about spending my money. It all balances out.

 

One thing that hasn't changed - I always have a great time in Pattaya.

[sick buffalo 15]

Siam started off as a poor country and over the years foreign investment has flown into the country to take advantage of the low manpower cost. Manufacturing and agriculture are contributing to strong exports. Therefore poverty has decreased and the quality of life style has gone up. It will be very easy for a Thai girl to get a job away from the bars as compared to her parents' generation...

 

Also the population of Thailand is going down (Fertility rate of 1.9 - Source - The Economist, as compared to a sustaintence rate of 2.1) and people are having fewer and fewer children. Today I only know ONE TG who has three children...

 

In this overall scenario I see the economy growing strongly inspite of the political uncertainty and logically therefore, I predict that it will get more and more expensive for especially people from Europe and North America to have the same level of entertainment that is currently possible. It's not a matter of if, but when. I would give it 8 to 12 years... There will be restricitons and P4P will keep getting more and more difficult.More bars will be demolished to make way for shopping malls and condos... I just need to compare in my mind the Pattaya of 1996 when I first visited and today's Pattaya. Thai women too will become more demanding and there will be a day when their outlook will be similar to their sisters in the west...

 

 

Enjoy while it lasts guys...

[sick buffalo 15]

Personally for me, it has not changed much but I tend to watch the expenses more carefully when I am in Patts these days. Gone are the days when I would blow upwards of 10000B on one evening... Those were unnecessary splurges... A 3000B spend would give me a similar level of satisfaction...

Edited November 26, 2010 by sick buffalo

[MM 6,562]

8 years ago I could get a girl long time for 1000 baht. Paid the same last month.

 

And now she's 8 years older

[Norfloxacin400 87]

Unfortunately the best days are gone. Yes, it was better 6 or 7 years ago. The exchange rates have made things much more expensive but I think maybe the main problem is that the quality of the whore-mongers has gone WAY down. Due to the scammers, beggars and general low life farangs, the girls have gotten harder and more mercenary. In the good old days the "HOW MUCH" question was rarely asked. The girls trusted that you would pay a reasonable price and that they would be rewarded for a better performance than was expected. The GFE was normal rather than the exception.

 

Pretty well sums it up in a nutshell. the whole dynamic has changed and not for the better.

[Norfloxacin400 87]

I just received an email from a friend (not a member of any borad) who has been visiting thailand several times a year for nearly 30 years. Thought i would post it here, as is rather topical.

 

Hi XXXX,

 

I would like to try Pattaya again, but got some reports that they seam to getting worse and offer just as bad service as Bangkok. That’s a real bummer, I’ll email a friend of mine in Pattaya. The good point is that some bar owners in Bangkok, particularly in Soi Cowboy have lifted they game with cold beers and good service staff that don’t get pissed off if the tip is not enough.

 

 

I was in Angeles about 10 years ago and found only one good one, the style of the go-go bars wasn’t even a good as Bangkok or Pattaya. I think that most of the guys that go to Pattaya are usually first timers, some been a few times and they think this is good service, and really don’t know what it’s all about. I doubt that a mass migration will happen to Angeles.

 

 

It reminds me when I was Pattaya a long time ago and having dinner in an Indian Restaurant, and some old Pommie guy was really throwing money at an ugly Thai girl, his mate thought he was crazy, and so did I but didn’t express it. So some guys who get a bit of attention think it’s great, all they would be is just some fart in there home country.

 

 

So in way, there a real some dick heads, who are happy with Pattaya. But once you’ve been around you just don’t tolerate all the BS these girls talk and the crappy service.

 

 

Regards XXXX

[papillon 695]

I just received an email from a friend (not a member of any borad) who has been visiting thailand several times a year for nearly 30 years. Thought i would post it here, as is rather topical.

 

Hi XXXX,

 

I would like to try Pattaya again, but got some reports that they seam to getting worse and offer just as bad service as Bangkok. That’s a real bummer, I’ll email a friend of mine in Pattaya. The good point is that some bar owners in Bangkok, particularly in Soi Cowboy have lifted they game with cold beers and good service staff that don’t get pissed off if the tip is not enough.

 

 

I was in Angeles about 10 years ago and found only one good one, the style of the go-go bars wasn’t even a good as Bangkok or Pattaya. I think that most of the guys that go to Pattaya are usually first timers, some been a few times and they think this is good service, and really don’t know what it’s all about. I doubt that a mass migration will happen to Angeles.

 

 

It reminds me when I was Pattaya a long time ago and having dinner in an Indian Restaurant, and some old Pommie guy was really throwing money at an ugly Thai girl, his mate thought he was crazy, and so did I but didn’t express it. So some guys who get a bit of attention think it’s great, all they would be is just some fart in there home country.

 

 

So in way, there a real some dick heads, who are happy with Pattaya. But once you’ve been around you just don’t tolerate all the BS these girls talk and the crappy service.

 

 

Regards XXXX

So where does your mate go now?

[nidnoyham 30]

If I was to compare the Pattaya I knew 10 years ago to today, by using TV proggrames.

 

I would have to say. it has gone from The Benny hill Show, to some sort of, in your face, Reality TV show, like Cops with Cameras.

 

It was all such a laugh......

 

But then I think that about Margate, Southend, Blackpool.....

[Samsonite 181]

...In my opinion what has changed Pattaya for the worst more than anything else is the proliferation of farang owned bars...

Absolutely agree! If I had to pick one reason for the decline, that would be it.

[MM 6,562]

If I was to compare the Pattaya I knew 10 years ago to today, by using TV proggrames.

 

I would have to say. it has gone from The Benny hill Show, to some sort of, in your face, Reality TV show, like Cops with Cameras.

 

It was all such a laugh......

 

But then I think that about Margate, Southend, Blackpool.....

 

 

Absolutely agree! If I had to pick one reason for the decline, that would be it.

 

Just curious to both of you. When was the last time you were in Pattaya?

 

It's because I get the impression neither of you have been here for a long time, so therefore you have no standing, AFAIK.

 

You could prove me wrong, of course

[nidnoyham 30]

Just curious to both of you. When was the last time you were in Pattaya?

 

It's because I get the impression neither of you have been here for a long time, so therefore you have no standing, AFAIK.

 

You could prove me wrong, of course

 

 

Last day was 02nd of November - this November. Was in FLB Halloween night for a quick one. Si calls it the cold bar-still !

 

I find the FLB a bit clique. Perhaps that's just my personality.

 

Watched Arsenal V W. Ham with Hammer at Cherry.

 

Noticed a small Singha varied from 55bht to 110bht at various venues- yours being the 110. Cherry 80.....

 

A pair of flip flops for my daughter near Mikes, were three times the price I paid in England for the ones I was wearing- and they have a bottle opener built into them.

 

Lady I have paid to do my finger nails on beach for 9 years charged 700bht for something that was 400 two years ago. Even Si was pissed with her.

 

Paid 100bht for 1kg of Mankutt near Mikes. They were the same price all along the market. No competition.

 

I used to enjoy sitting in Palmers watching the girls tempting punters into The Go- Go's Bubbles, Emergency, Classroom, Girls... They did it with a smile, a laugh and some banter..... That is what I mean by the Benny hill bit. It seems to have disappeared.

[monochromeman 41]

It was much better 10 or 15 years ago.

The internet and mobile phones have caused the demise of the GFE.

In my opinion what has changed Pattaya for the worst more than anything else is the proliferation of farang owned bars.

It is next to impossible to have a GFE experience with a hot 19 year old these days without her expecting you to buy a new wardrobe and a mobile phone.

I tried the LT GFE with a hot 19 year old for the last few days but she startef looking at phones in Tukcom so I had to let her go.

It is better now than one year ago because there are less customers so it's easy to get a hottie for 1000 or less.

The golden era of 10 years ago is gone forever but if you like ST uncomplicated sex then Pattaya is better than ever.

It seems like there are more pretty girls eager for custom perhaps due to less people being stupid enough to sponsor during the depression.

Overall I still say it is a great place to be.

.

 

why that?

[monochromeman 41]

Unfortunately the best days are gone. Yes, it was better 6 or 7 years ago. The exchange rates have made things much more expensive but I think maybe the main problem is that the quality of the whore-mongers has gone WAY down. Due to the scammers, beggars and general low life farangs, the girls have gotten harder and more mercenary. In the good old days the "HOW MUCH" question was rarely asked. The girls trusted that you would pay a reasonable price and that they would be rewarded for a better performance than was expected. The GFE was normal rather than the exception.

Gary

 

interesting thoughts

 

i first came 15 yrs ago. true "how much" was NEVER in fact asked. 500b was the unsaid LT rate . 32b/£1 if i remember right. meaning 64b £1 @ 1000b LT now. of course we don't get 64b we get less.

 

what you mean by low life farang?

[VicVegas 70]

And now she's 8 years older

 

I know you're just having fun MM, but just to clarify:

 

March 2003, 30ish soi 8 beer bar girl - 1000 baht LT

 

October 2010, 22-year-old hottie from a beer bar on Soi 8 - 1000 baht LT.

 

The 2010 version is much hotter and much better in the sack, so I'm obviously getting better at picking them.

[jacko 8,822]

If I was to compare the Pattaya I knew 10 years ago to today, by using TV proggrames.

 

I would have to say. it has gone from The Benny hill Show, to some sort of, in your face, Reality TV show, like Cops with Cameras.

 

It was all such a laugh......

 

But then I think that about Margate, Southend, Blackpool.....

I spent a few days in Blackpool on my last UK trip.... it is truly truly awful!

[bratpack 91]

I think it's a great deal and I love the place but I am a newbie. I am young only 24 but I have tons of experience with the asian escorts here in Toronto.

When i see what i get for my vacation money in thailand and compare with other mongering countries it seems thailand comes out on top. BUT i do have the luxury of using company airmiles for my flights. Then there's the fact that I rarely drink and yes i got heckled all time for ordering water so i have a lot more to spend on the girls because my check bins are pretty low. I see myself coming here for a very long time unless my $ drops so much it would be cheaper to stay at home. But i guess I'm still seeing everything as a star eyed newbie.

 

 

If Pattaya is getting old or boring for you the just spread your wings and try a new mongering country

 

 

May i ask why u have to pay for sex at 24yo,holidays purely for mongering.Not picking on u but i find it very strange that a young u cant go to clubs,shopping malls etc and chat with and pick up birds.If u are doing this in between mongering then good luck but hope you wear protection

[Gonzo 419]

I don't know what figures you're using but 10 years ago 100 quid would have bought you 6,200 Baht. To buy the same 6,200 Baht today would cost 132 quid and that doesn't take into account the 30%+ compounded increase in the cost of living in Thailand over the same period. That means you'd have to buy around 8,200 Baht to account for the increase in the cost of living - i.e. it would cost you almost 175 quid to buy the same as you did 10 years ago.

[/quoteguys.

I suppose it all depends where you come from. In 2001 I was getting around 21 THB for one Aussie $. For the last few months it has fluctuated between THB 27 and

29+ THB per Aussie $. When the exchange rate seems right to me, I normally convert Aussie $ to THB by TT transfer from my Australian Credit Union. This has worked exceedingly well for me for a long time. Living in Thailand is cheaper for me now than it was ten years ago. I feel sorry for the Euro and British pound guys and the Americans as well

[nidnoyham 30]

I feel sorry for the Euro and British pound guys and the Americans as well

 

 

Bet your old countrymen are thinking about a return to the Mark ?

 

Dam zoes English Svines keepink zeier Pfund !

[nidnoyham 30]

It's because I get the impression neither of you have been here for a long time, so therefore you have no standing, AFAIK.

 

 

How about my standing up for you in the " Here we go Again" thread ?

[Gonzo 419]

Bet your old countrymen are thinking about a return to the Mark ?

 

Dam zoes English Svines keepink zeier Pfund !

Without the strong economy of Germany, the rest of Europe would bite the dust in the not so distant future, including England. I hope you will do better in the Ashes series to put a bit of joy into your miserable lives.

[Frogster 1]

I spent a few days in Blackpool on my last UK trip.... it is truly truly awful!

 

Some of us actually live there (or very close), have a thought for us poor sods !

[nidnoyham 30]

Without the strong economy of Germany, the rest of Europe would bite the dust in the not so distant future, including England. I hope you will do better in the Ashes series to put a bit of joy into your miserable lives.

 

There has already been a lot of 'dust biting' in Europe thanks to Germany in the last century.

 

Somehow we English always seem to pull through, regardless.

[satyr 15]

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Edited February 3, 2011 by satyr