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What Internet Security do you use in the past i downloaded the free AVG and had no problems with it, i recently bought a new lappy and obtained Norton

 

at a very cheap price.

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There is no sure security software that will protect you 100%. All you have to do is open up the wrong link and you're hosed. Just watch what kind of sites you're directed to, look at the link's URL address and if it's something different from what you expect then don't touch it. You can have all the alarms for the house you want, but if you open the front door for the bad guy to walk on in is the same way viruses and trojans work. Oh, and.......wrong section to post.

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i use avg internet. it is not free . i have had no problems with it

I use Avast, free version, for 3 or 4 years now and no problem : http://www.avast.com/free-antivirus-download

 

I used to use AVG but change after their release 7 (I think?) who become so big and so slow that it was unusable on my computer. AVG has blocked tens of thousands of PC recently - and already last years - by removing valid system files of Windows ! I would not trust them anymore.

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McAfee can be integrated with the Firefox browser so that links shown by searching on Google are given a green tick if they are deemed fine and a red cross if they aren't.

 

Isn't foolproof but again it is some added protection.

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I can't think of a reason to pay for security for PCs -- Windows at least, but Mac and Linux too. There are a number of EXCELLENT products. One of them that is getting great reviews including from me is Microsoft Security Essentials.

 

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I don't use any antivirus, but I've heard good things about Avast.

 

Avast is brilliant, it is also free. Its the best I have ever used. Live updates every few hours and has kept my lappy free of all ills including malware.

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Avast is brilliant, it is also free. Its the best I have ever used. Live updates every few hours and has kept my lappy free of all ills including malware.

 

The problem is that you don't really know this. NB: I think people should ONLY use security programs (and real-life security) that they are confident in. But you can't tell if Avast, your own good habits, good luck or the gold-dust fairy perched on your left shoulder has kept you worry-free. Also, you can't actually tell if you DON'T have malware - no program exists to prove that negative.

 

I just feel the need sometimes to dump a few clouds over the sun. But it IS real.

 

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The problem is that you don't really know this. NB: I think people should ONLY use security programs (and real-life security) that they are confident in. But you can't tell if Avast, your own good habits, good luck or the gold-dust fairy perched on your left shoulder has kept you worry-free. Also, you can't actually tell if you DON'T have malware - no program exists to prove that negative.

 

I just feel the need sometimes to dump a few clouds over the sun. But it IS real.

 

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Well, I am no stranger to computers and have used a number of anti virus programmes. All, have let viruses and malware slip through.

 

I have had the longest spell of security with Avast, and it is efficient at blocking unwanted registry files. I recently ran a scan with Malwarebytes and apart from 3 mildly suspect files, all was clean. With previous Virus guards like Norton and AVS lots of bad stuff and trojans used to slip through the net and plonk things on my lappy.

 

There is never a sure fire way of keeping all viruses and malware off of a PC as they are being created everyday, but my laptop has been very stabe since I put in a new hard drive and installed Avast.

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I've got Norton Security Suite...free from my ISP.

 

It seems to work well but I agree it also seems to slow down the computers I have it on.

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Well, I am no stranger to computers and have used a number of anti virus programmes. All, have let viruses and malware slip through.

 

I have had the longest spell of security with Avast, and it is efficient at blocking unwanted registry files. I recently ran a scan with Malwarebytes and apart from 3 mildly suspect files, all was clean. With previous Virus guards like Norton and AVS lots of bad stuff and trojans used to slip through the net and plonk things on my lappy.

 

There is never a sure fire way of keeping all viruses and malware off of a PC as they are being created everyday, but my laptop has been very stabe since I put in a new hard drive and installed Avast.

 

Not to kick you in the nuts or anything, but I have never met ANYBODY whom I would consider knowledgeable about computers who has got a virus. It may have happened, but I've never seen it.

 

I've been virus-free on the web for 14 years without Anti-virus, because the simple truth is I've yet to encounter a virus that didn't need the user to install it.

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Not to kick you in the nuts or anything, but I have never met ANYBODY whom I would consider knowledgeable about computers who has got a virus. It may have happened, but I've never seen it.

 

I've been virus-free on the web for 14 years without Anti-virus, because the simple truth is I've yet to encounter a virus that didn't need the user to install it.

 

 

I will give you an example of a nasty virus that was around last year. Sure I got it from a porn site (Red Tube)

 

I clicked on a link and an alien virus alert came up. It was not my anti virus though, it was a rogue site that had dished out a virus and then gave an option for me to pay for their anti virus programme to get rid of it. it hijacked my computer and would not allow me to carry out any operations on the computer.

 

Fortunately, I was able to get rid of it in the end by starting up in safe mode and running and deleted the corrupt files from the Registry. They were disguised as well, and well hidden in the system. Moat viruses are not that harmful. Most people would have ended up taking their PC to a specialist to get the virus removed.

 

There are plenty of viruses around and trojans too. I would say that you have been either extremely lucky or limited in your internet use, not to have had any sort of virus or malware without protection.

 

Many viruses automatically install themselves into the registry without you even knowing it. I have barebacked a lot of women in Thailand in the past, yet have never caught an infection. It does not mean that there are no infections out there, but that I have been very lucky. Perhaps it is the same with your PC.

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I've been virus-free on the web for 14 years without Anti-virus, because the simple truth is I've yet to encounter a virus that didn't need the user to install it.

 

If you mean LITERALLY "virus" it's debatable. If you mean malware, trojans, sniffers, adware and the like, you are wrong.... well, technically YOU personally might not have encountered one, but thousands and thousands exist.

 

Just for fun many years ago back in the "Friday the 13th" days, I wrote such an actual virus myself, in batch language yet. The user-victim went about his business as always, doing exactly what he did yesterday, but today he got a virus. It was just for fun, and never got off my own computer, but it worked. Today there are all kinds of really well-crafted exploits that hit you from looking at a web page (Microsoft.com was one such page for a while) or by reading an email -- big companies' legitimate newsletters have been hit by these. Back in the day, ANSI Escape codes got a lot of DOS users into terrible trouble from attackers. These days, scripts can do the darndest things if crafted just right and placed just so on web pages. Browsers aren't all that secure, really.

 

As a friend of mine says, the only safe computer is unplugged, stripped of all drives, embedded in concrete and sunk in a very deep part of the ocean.

 

Today's victim TYPICALLY doesn't actually start up the "virus". He is probably clumsy, probably carefree, probably careless, but in the end he is using the wrong browser at the wrong time on the wrong website, and Joe Viruswriter simply walks in and roots his machine and does what he wants with it.

 

I do agree that the very best software protection against attacks is the software between your ears. Smarter, more knowledgeable, more experienced and more aware people get a LOT fewer attacks than the opposite. I actually do not doubt for a moment that you are 14 years virus-free. There are a lot of really slack-jawed computer users, as you say. I agree with all of that. But if you use a computer, you are not entirely safe from virtual attacks, doesn't matter how smart you are. And these days "computer" takes in a lot of other territory like phones and pads and music players, say.

 

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If you mean LITERALLY "virus" it's debatable. If you mean malware, trojans, sniffers, adware and the like, you are wrong.... well, technically YOU personally might not have encountered one, but thousands and thousands exist.

 

Just for fun many years ago back in the "Friday the 13th" days, I wrote such an actual virus myself, in batch language yet. The user-victim went about his business as always, doing exactly what he did yesterday, but today he got a virus. It was just for fun, and never got off my own computer, but it worked. Today there are all kinds of really well-crafted exploits that hit you from looking at a web page (Microsoft.com was one such page for a while) or by reading an email -- big companies' legitimate newsletters have been hit by these. Back in the day, ANSI Escape codes got a lot of DOS users into terrible trouble from attackers. These days, scripts can do the darndest things if crafted just right and placed just so on web pages. Browsers aren't all that secure, really.

 

As a friend of mine says, the only safe computer is unplugged, stripped of all drives, embedded in concrete and sunk in a very deep part of the ocean.

 

Today's victim TYPICALLY doesn't actually start up the "virus". He is probably clumsy, probably carefree, probably careless, but in the end he is using the wrong browser at the wrong time on the wrong website, and Joe Viruswriter simply walks in and roots his machine and does what he wants with it.

 

I do agree that the very best software protection against attacks is the software between your ears. Smarter, more knowledgeable, more experienced and more aware people get a LOT fewer attacks than the opposite. I actually do not doubt for a moment that you are 14 years virus-free. There are a lot of really slack-jawed computer users, as you say. I agree with all of that. But if you use a computer, you are not entirely safe from virtual attacks, doesn't matter how smart you are. And these days "computer" takes in a lot of other territory like phones and pads and music players, say.

 

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Yeah, well..... I do use SpyBot :) Which means Tea Timer is resident.

 

 

The line between "virus" "adware" and "malware" is getting smaller all the time. I surf porn alot , so I'm sure I'm exposed to some of the worst that is out there. I just don't co operate.

 

When I go to a website, and it tries to launch Acrobat, I don't let it. If it tries to "print", i don't let it. If it has a popup window that says "ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO LEAVE", I don't click OK or ANYTHING inside that window. If it says I need need to download a codec.... you get the point.

 

The one thing that really got my attention was a virus that loaded through images that your browser loads. It was exploiting a specific flaw which i wasn't vulnerable to, but still....

 

Oh, and I don't use IE. It blows, anyway.

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I can't think of a reason to pay for security for PCs -- Windows at least, but Mac and Linux too. There are a number of EXCELLENT products. One of them that is getting great reviews including from me is Microsoft Security Essentials

 

I use MSE. Works well and it's free.

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I'm on a MAC and while I don't believe they are completely immune to all the crap out there have yet to see same on my system....and believe me, I visit some very iffy sites. Probably that will change over the next few years but for right now I roam with relative impunity.

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The line between "virus" "adware" and "malware" is getting smaller all the time. I surf porn alot , so I'm sure I'm exposed to some of the worst that is out there. I just don't co operate.

 

Not really. A true computer "virus" is patterned after a real-life virus - its sole goal is to replicate. Anything else it happens to do, such as kill the host, is extra. It requires a host in order to live and to replicate. If the host dies, the virus dies -- which is why no "good" computer virus will actually kill its host or the computer - the host of the host.

 

I can understand when people use short forms and all, but actually a virus (and a trojan) are subject to close and exact definitions - just as a medical virus. "Malware" is just a fancy way of saying "bad stuff" (mal = bad) and adware is fairly broad but exists to help spread a (commercial) message. Each of the threats has an actual name. Malware is a safe blanket name.

 

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I used AVG and it made my internet run like a sloth.

For 18 months I used MSE. Up until last week it did the job.

Until a particularly nasty Trojan (not the condom) got past it.

This virus scrambled windows and all my directories and spread itself amongst 3 hard-drives.

 

T took the PC to my computer guy and it took 10 hours to unscramble it.

I was about to go pick the box up and I got a call saying their program found more of the Trojan.

When I got the PC back after 3 days, they put Kaspersky on my system. Seems ok and no significant slowdown.

Luckily nothing was lost.

The chief computer geek suggested using Firefox instead of IE as a browser as it has a lot more inbuilt security.

 

Messing about and downloading stuff off the net is a lottery when it comes to viruses.

If you have stuff you treasure, back it up .... twice. External drives are dirt cheap these days.

The hard-drive in your pc/laptop isnt designed to last forever.

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