another bad experience with the Brits

[Montydog 135]

But of course the only country you can actually think of at the moment that has a past that it tries to forget is the United States. Fair go. It's hard to think of any other country that has ever had such a shameful past as a drought. There's probably not another country since Earth cooled with THAT shameful a past.

 

Still.... I'll give you a few minutes, see if you can think of another example -- not as bad of course, but still has something in its past it tries to forget. Go ahead. Give it a shot.

 

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Joe do you ever get out of the house or is the chip on your shoulder just too much of a burden?

 

 

No Joe I was actually watching a documentary on BBC 4 about John Steinbeck last night presented by Melvin Brag (you can go on the internet and confirm if you like) and was totally amazed that Americans could treat fellow Americans in such a way especially in what I would consider the “modern“ world. .

　

It was not a “dig” at Americans or America just a observation on the human condition.

[atlas2 4,329]

 

And? Your point is? The post by Johnny K said that among people who don't share a love or nostalgia for the British Empire are the Chinese. Number one, that is really, really, factual and true. Number two, there is a very good reason for their.... distaste and it is chiefly the opium wars.

 

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The Chnese of course have a history of distaste for anyone not Chinese. The History between China, Britain and other western powers has been the usual shameful stuff. On both sides........All sides. Money has always been important to men. Don't matter the breed, 'man' and 'woman' have been 'at it' and will go on being 'at it' until Yellowstone blows. Those pointing fingers at any country are wasting their time.

 

I'm not sure that the Opium War meant as much to China's rulers as the burning of the 'Summer Palace'. Which was chiefly a British decision designed to punish the ruling elite. As always the French wrung their hands and disagreed....... but whlie 'Tommy' set about his work 'Jean Claude' carried home most of the treasures. That gigantic slap across the Chinese face and pulling of pig-tails was, as it was intended to be, personally felt. The Chinese have long memories....It seems from this discussion we all have.

 

.............Long and selective memories!

 

This is a pointless and futile discussion.

 

Carry on!

[jacko 8,813]

 

The two world wars were European wars. Not sure how many people were killed in WWI, but in WWII there were in excess of 60 million. By contrast the wars America has been involved in since WWII have had relatively few civilian casualties. You Europeans are self righteous hypocrites.

So Japan wasn't involved then......nor the USA?

I know in WW2 there were many killed in Japan, who did that? Using what, WMD perhaps.

And you are seriously saying the Vietnamese war produced few civilian casualties. wasn't it about 2,000,000?

Never heard of the My Lai massacre.

 

Neither Europeans nor Americans can cast first stones.

[joekicker 53]

This is a pointless and futile discussion.

 

Apparently not.

 

But what you write is probably right. I'm darned if I can figure out what is controversial or wrong about the original, simple statement that the Chinese (among many others) do not view the old British Empire favourably. It's just an isolated factlet, but it is absolutely factual.

 

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[JohnnyK 28]

The Chinese Concessions were part of the Brit Empire. Ever heard of Swire or Jardine Matheson? UK outfits that controlled huge parts of China's economy. Based in HK but did big biz all over China, not all of it benign. They still exist today.

As for WWII, there was an Asian war, too. For those who didn't know, you can look it up.

BTW, the Russians were the ones who did Hitle in more than anyone else. They inflicted 75% of the German casualties and Hitler had 75-80% of his troops in the eastern European theatre. From the end of 1941 Germany had from 5 to 7 times more divisions in the east as it did in the west.

[alphacat 12]

I would not let people like that in my condo. If I had one!! That is.

 

He doesn't even understand what a contract means. Then proceeds to denigrate the population of a whole country because of his sad experience.

 

One thing the English gave to most of the world was an understanding of legal contracts and organisation. We even borrowed people countries and rented them back to them. Many are better of now than they were then.

Overall they got a good deal.

 

Pax Britannia

[papillon 695]

The Chinese Concessions were part of the Brit Empire.

 

Ever heard of Swire or Jardine Matheson? UK outfits that controlled huge parts of China's economy. Based in HK but did big biz all over China, not all of it benign. They still exist today.

 

Concessions? Only one concession of territory that I'm aware of, Hong Kong which we eventually leased from China.

 

Hong Kong is only one tiny territory. China was never part of the British Empire, only Hong Kong..

 

Swire and Jardine Matheson have fuckall to do with it. The East India Company had the trade monopoly given to it by the British Government upon formation and was backed up by the Royal Navy.

[joekicker 53]

Concessions? Only one concession of territory that I'm aware of, Hong Kong which we eventually leased from China.

 

Yes. Right. AND there were one or two other... oh, probably just nit-picking but other events. The Shanghai International Settlement for example. Treaty of Nanking. Opium and silk trading. You know, nothing BIG, just a few million lives ruined, probably shouldn't mention them.

 

Again: What is wrong or un-factual with the single statement that the Chinese in general are not in any manner grateful for the British Empire?

 

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[jacko 8,813]

Yes. Right. AND there were one or two other... oh, probably just nit-picking but other events. The Shanghai International Settlement for example. Treaty of Nanking. Opium and silk trading. You know, nothing BIG, just a few million lives ruined, probably shouldn't mention them.

 

Again: What is wrong or un-factual with the single statement that the Chinese in general are not in any manner grateful for the British Empire?

 

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They like our Range Rovers....... ooops, they are Indian now aren't they?

[joekicker 53]

They like our Range Rovers....... ooops, they are Indian now aren't they?

 

Heh. Well, people bad-mouth Britain, and bad-mouth its leaders and some people bad-mouth all citizens as trash, as we see. All that said, I've not heard anyone accuse Britain of having an Empire. One thing about the English language, just like the Empire, is that it has a clear past tense.

 

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[papillon 695]

Again: What is wrong or un-factual with the single statement that the Chinese in general are not in any manner grateful for the British Empire?

 

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Again?

[yozz 3]

Peckerwood there are good people and arseholes in all societies including wherever you are from, but a contract is a contract and you broke yours, and why should the landlord let you back on your terms just because the contract terms didn't suit you,... and you are a pretentious nobhead with your claims about tattooed english hooligans, try pulling your blinkered head out your arrogant arse and then you might stop talking shite....I bet you think the whole world should dance to your tune..

[Obsession 571]

FAF, some guys still whining about the British Empire. I wonder why they have such a bug up their ass about it to mention it so often , over the years , on a mongers forum , and to be in every Brit thread! And it also has you wondering why they refuse to say what nationality they are. Together, it makes their biased musings irrelevant, imho.

[joekicker 53]

Again?

 

Indeed. And again?

 

You don't HAVE to answer of course. No rule about that.

 

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[yozz 3]

a few from your last posts Mr Pecker...

 

:,,,,,One of the BM's here recently posted about devil's den. What I found particularly interesting was that one could specify the particular "skill" that you were interested in and do a search, and walla- up would come a list of the girls providing that particular specialty. I thought wow! . Wouldn't be great to have a lady that provides deep throat and does anal at the same time! So I go online and book one of the ladies that came up in the search. I have to hand it to the management there. They called me back promptly . But then the guy hits me with this utterly incompressible request. He says that because I live in a Condo and not a hotel, I must first come in to his little shop of whores and provide him with full identification. Then, and only then, would I qualify for the great privilege of using his services. What a fucking jackass (I hope you are reading this, whoever you are). I have lived in Thailand for 9 years now, and have lived in condos for almost the entire 9 years. I have barfined many hundreds of girls from go-go's and bars, and not once have I been asked to present my passport to the management before I could take her home. Yes, this does constitute a (very small) risk for the lady. But as far as I can tell, attacks on Thai working girls by customers are very rare. Anyway, I have now completely written off the devils den.

 

:,,,The vast majority of posts on this board are from short time tourists. They have absolutely no knowledge of Thai culture, and are forever obsessing-- alternately bitching about and praising the virtues of bar girls-- about their experiences with Thai women. As a long time expat well versed in Thai culture and language, I find these posts tedious in the extreme. And in fact, I find many of their posts rather pathetic. Now I know that most long time expats have girlfriends or wives, but I really don't want either one. I enjoy the mongering scene too much. So I realize that I am in a rather small minority of farangs that enjoy Thailand for one reason or another. Does anyone know of a forumn for guys like me?

 

 

looks like you have problems of your own ...and I am not a Brit...

 

LoL djidji nice post. this guy Peckerwood is a wanker i think he will get offside with anyone he has dealings with, i feel sorry for any thai girl that ends up having the misfortune of going back to his condo, i bet he even argues about the price he has to pay for the girl when they are finished their session, giving reasons like she wouldnt kiss his ass, made to cum 2 fast, no customer satisfaction, i bet he will complain to her boss saying he wants his barfine back......and im sure the devils den wont miss this misrable sorry ass customer

[yozz 3]

I fully expected go get a lot of shit on this board for slagging off the Brits. This is because I fully understand that perhaps 90% of the guys on this board are Brits. But I pose the question again: how many of you Brits are low life welfare queens. How many of you are on the dole? I suspect that the vast majority of you scum bags fit into this category.

hey mr nasty the only low life on this board is you Peckerwood, i bet you haven't got many friends unless they are your fellow members of the redneck racist brigade that you are president of, i think you are in for a lot of miserable days in your life you sad-sack loser..... oh yes and dont forget you haven't paid your yearly membership to your local branch KKK... cant have the clan getting upset now can we they might make you hand back your white sheet.....

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[ozibill 546]

I should think Peckerwood is laughing his head off over the various posts brought about by his original post . We have quite strayed from his original offensive reamark . He knows , to some degree , that he is wrong but you are giving him a lot of fun . Come on , Peckerwood , admit you posted this with your tongue in your cheek . After all , nobody could be that intentionally stupid

[9cisco999 107]

Has anyone stopped to think this whole thread is about a major wind up by the OP?

[bigmick 840]

Has anyone stopped to think this whole thread is about a major wind up by the OP?

 

Exactly right and what has the Chinese got to do with a stupid prick who would not honor his contract and attempted to do a runnner. Some get just a tad to excited....

[mrlasvegas 124]

You are not wrong about the backpacker sheilas. They know how to earn a quid by working hard as fruit pickers, can drink a lot of beer and are horny as well. A lot of them never make it back to mother England and decide to stay in Oz for good. They are an asset to our country. Most of the Brit backpacker blokes are alright as well.

 

 

Interesting program. Sort of like our Mexicans except for the papers and distinct lack of multiple children.

[butterflyblonde 30]

FAF, some guys still whining about the British Empire. I wonder why they have such a bug up their ass about it to mention it so often , over the years , on a mongers forum , and to be in every Brit thread! And it also has you wondering why they refuse to say what nationality they are. Together, it makes their biased musings irrelevant, imho.

 

Well said.

[peckerwood 60]

I blame it on the USA.

 

All these feral kids follow the lead from the Yanks. The gang culture, MTV wannabe Gangsta Rappers, etc.

Paps, you have a very good point. Quite frankly, I am appalled by the level that American culture has sunk to. America is still the cultural leader of the world, and we should be ashamed.

[wacmedia 277]

America is still the cultural leader of the world,

 

Hi,

 

Not anywhere I go to. Europe is the cultural centre of the World. America has Hollywood.

[joekicker 53]

Not anywhere I go to. Europe is the cultural centre of the World. America has Hollywood.

 

And you have Adele, you lucky fellow, although it seems you don't get out too much, except to a tasteful concert or football match.

 

Funny you are writing this on an Internet forum. Does the irony not strike you at ALL?

 

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[Desmond Jones 196]

Yeah Joey, but we had Michael Jackson. Where else on earth can your own MD promise a good nights sleep like that?

 

And we invented "occupy", though in Mexico and Madrid, it's occupado.

 

And the Kardashian media whore squad extrordinaire? Beat that Iceland, or Eng land !

 

 

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