THAILAND v ENGLAND

[macky 0]

no or not much drinking to be had in Qatar Not a lot else to do Now it looks like no poofs will be going http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/de...tion-qatar-2022

[nidnoyham 30]

What they said about hockey. But sure enough, they close down the pro leagues worldwide to play the Olympics. The sheeple have become conditioned to it. It's accepted. It seems to work.

 

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How many countries play pro hockey, compared to those who play pro football ?

 

How will I get my housework done in the winter on a Saturday, without listening to football on the radio ?

 

It isn't really the fact Qatar has it- as unfair it is on others, it is the way they were chosen. I would prefer to pull them out of a hat, than have all that bollocks from FIFA about needing to check countries facilities, planned and in situ, suitability of accomodation, transport, tourist attractions.......

 

They could do it all from Zurich- No need to leave their offices- Have they never heard of Google ?

[CheshireTom 1,377]

How many countries play pro hockey, compared to those who play pro football ?

 

How will I get my housework done in the winter on a Saturday, without listening to football on the radio ?

 

It isn't really the fact Qatar has it- as unfair it is on others, it is the way they were chosen. I would prefer to pull them out of a hat, than have all that bollocks from FIFA about needing to check countries facilities, planned and in situ, suitability of accomodation, transport, tourist attractions.......

 

They could do it all from Zurich- No need to leave their offices- Have they never heard of Google ?

 

It's pretty much the same way that London got the Olympics.

[nidnoyham 30]

Why all the anomosity towards change? Fear of the unknown? Who knows but Russia and Qatar may be the best world cup ever. We are already seeing Brazil trying to clean up their crime rate. And many others have mentioned how hosting the WC benefited S Africa , USA , Korea/Japan etc as well as the changes made for (before and after) world cups like the introduction of drinking water , goalkeeper's 6 sec rule , tackles from behind etc.

 

Many people were fearful of Euro96 being a hooligan fest but it turned out to be one of the best .... where football came home!

 

Give them a chance , England will get to host it sooner or later.

 

 

I have no animosity to change. I don't fear the unknown- I have never been to Japan- Australia, or S. Korea, but I think their W.Cup bids would be higher on MY list of countries, than Qatar.

 

Then again, if nothing else, I am a practical person.

 

Qatar is geographically ideal- smack bang in the middle of the world, but....... Heat, culture, strict religion, non footballing country and unlikely to ever become one on any significance.....

 

This is footballs premier event. The choice of venue, should put the game first.

In S.Africa it was a great occasion for those native to that country. They embraced it to the full. I can't see Qataries doing the same.

 

Think of how old most of us will be by then and how would we manage, with our wheelchair tyres melting on the pavement.

[nidnoyham 30]

It's pretty much the same way that London got the Olympics.

 

 

Right ! I thought that was a fit up too.

 

At least they will be held in one city, unlike the W.Cup spread all over Russia.

 

I will go out on a limb and claim that less people wanted the Olympics in London, than wanted the football W.Cup in England. About 80-90% less ?

 

As I said before, if Ken Livingstone and Tony Blair wanted it, that was enough for me not to. Neither are renown for their sporting prowess. It was a political thing, sold to the public, on how much re generation it will bring to the East end of London- yeah we all care about that.

 

The Olympics has a terrible history of overrun costs. Montreal- Athens -now London............ we weren't appointed the Olympics we were lumbered with them.

 

Appointed the Olympics Wednesday, blown up Thursday.

[CheshireTom 1,377]

At least they will be held in one city ...

 

Good stuff! Just like the WC in Qatar.

[soi two 1]

According to this article in the Daily Telegraph, Thailand had made it very clear they would not be voting for England to host the World Cup and were assured the friendly game would go ahead regardless.

 

 

However, for two months it had been clear that Makudi had no intention of supporting England in the vote.

 

In September, Telegraph Sport revealed that Makudi was part of a vote-trading alliance between Spain-Portugal and Qatar that he was highly unlikely to abandon.

 

Last month he telephoned Premier League chairman Sir Dave Richards, who is also chair of the Club England board, to ask if the game would be honoured even if he did not vote for England.

 

Richards told him that it would, but after the crushing defeat in Zurich that decision has been reversed. The FA declined to comment on the issue on Friday.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...bid-defeat.html

 

Poor show from the FA.

[nidnoyham 30]

Good stuff! Just like the WC in Qatar.

 

 

Yeah, not only in the wrong place, but in one place !

[nidnoyham 30]

According to this article in the Daily Telegraph, Thailand had made it very clear they would not be voting for England to host the World Cup and were assured the friendly game would go ahead regardless.

 

 

However, for two months it had been clear that Makudi had no intention of supporting England in the vote.

 

In September, Telegraph Sport revealed that Makudi was part of a vote-trading alliance between Spain-Portugal and Qatar that he was highly unlikely to abandon.

 

Last month he telephoned Premier League chairman Sir Dave Richards, who is also chair of the Club England board, to ask if the game would be honoured even if he did not vote for England.

 

Richards told him that it would, but after the crushing defeat in Zurich that decision has been reversed. The FA declined to comment on the issue on Friday.

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...bid-defeat.html

 

Poor show from the FA.

 

 

I disagree its a poor show from the FA. What Mr Makudi has said is- I just fucked your wife, but can I still borrow your golf clubs Saturday, as arranged ? "

[soi two 1]

Not really lol. Funny analogy but not really true.

 

England said they'd go ahead with the game regardless then pulled out after their bid ended in disaster.

[mmaaarrrkkk 41]

I disagree its a poor show from the FA. What Mr Makudi has said is- I just fucked your wife, but can I still borrow your golf clubs Saturday, as arranged ? "

 

It seems the real picture is slowly coming out and still the English FA is looking for excuses.

[nidnoyham 30]

It seems the real picture is slowly coming out and still the English FA is looking for excuses.

 

 

If we had said no we wont play you. Do you think it would have persuaded him to change his mind ?

 

 

The FA were, as usual, out of touch with how far this bunch of crooks had sold them down the river to the Russkies.

 

It's time we started to be a bit less walkoverable. You fucked us- well fuck you too !

 

When you compare the likes of Bobby Charlton, Geoff Hurst, Trevor Brooking and others on the FA, to this bunch of Shylocks running FIFA, it puts it into perspective. Sepp Blatter - twinned with Simon Cowell or Bernard Maydoff.....

 

Franz Beckenbauer, has described the FIFA attack on England and Australia as bad losers a disgrace. He is resigning from FIFA in March. He was assured neither the executive committee, or the public, would be told how many votes each country got. It was to be kept to themselves, but Sepp Blatter told the media, even before the final announcements. He was also angry about the Blatter coment on gay fans traveling to Qatar, not to act gay.

 

What a useless cunt he is !

 

It's enough to make a rabbit spit in a Bulldogs eye !

[atlas2 4,329]

hopefully the gay remarks by 'seeping bladder' will see him off into a much over-due retirement.

[Basil B 46]

There was much horse trading as to support for the World Cup, England by far had the best technical bid, we had the promise of support but out of 6 promised votes we got 1, why should the English FA underwrite a costly "friendly" match that has no beneficial value with a nation that stabbed us in the back?

 

The voting only emphasises the corruption in FIFA.

[nidnoyham 30]

It's pretty much the same way that London got the Olympics.

 

 

Talking of the Olympics Tom- Oh and LDK ,yes and JoeK

 

The leaders of the four home nations, will not back down on their decision that the football team playing in the 2012 Olympics, will have English players only. This agreement was signed two years ago. The British Olympic Association is insisting that all British players should be eligible and based on merit. The Fa are trying to sort it out.

 

The other three nations are worried that to send a mixed team, will threaten their status with FIFA.

 

Wales, Scotland and N Ireland want to be recognized as individual footballing nations. - quite right too !

 

This is why we don't have a 'Team GB' in the World Cup. We want to represent our country. Ask a German or Spaniard, Italian..... if he wants to play in the World Cup for 'Team Europe'.

[joekicker 53]

The leaders of the four home nations, will not back down on their decision that the football team playing in the 2012 Olympics, will have English players only.

 

Uh huh. How about the track and field (athletics) team? English only? And how about the synchronised swimming team (singles event)? How about the gymnasts? "No Welsh wanted", is it?

 

The only thing that's surprising here is that the English FA is so strongly dedicated to kissing Mr Bladder's lower backside and feet after their very recent treatment. THAT is about as pusillanimous as a football association of any nation could ever get (I hope).

 

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[nidnoyham 30]

Uh huh. How about the track and field (athletics) team? English only? And how about the synchronised swimming team (singles event)? How about the gymnasts? "No Welsh wanted", is it?

 

The only thing that's surprising here is that the English FA is so strongly dedicated to kissing Mr Bladder's lower backside and feet after their very recent treatment. THAT is about as pusillanimous as a football association of any nation could ever get (I hope).

 

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No joe, the Welsh, Scots and N.Irish, don't want to play Olympic football. It is because FIFA are so anti British, that they don't want to take the chance of losing their countries recognition as a International side.

 

All the FA's are happy with the situation. It is the BOA that is causing a fuss. Football and Olympic sports, are two separate entities in our eyes.

 

The Olympics are supposed to be for amatuer contestants.

 

I was at Fort William highland games, one rainy windswept day. There was an announcement, that they only had 1 competitor for the 400yds race. Anyone who fancied having a go was welcome, bearing in mind there was three money prizes to be won. The announcer added in a less than serious voice, that anyone winning money will be barred from competing in any future Olympic games. We all looked around at the mums and dads and old folk there and chuckled.

 

Can you read the OP slowly ?

[joekicker 53]

All the FA's are happy with the situation. It is the BOA that is causing a fuss. Football and Olympic sports, are two separate entities in our eyes.

 

I'm pretty sure they have football in the Olympics. It was in the newspaper recently.

 

The only thing that's surprising here is that the English FA is so strongly dedicated to kissing Mr Bladder's lower backside and feet after their very recent treatment. THAT is about as pusillanimous as a football association of any nation could ever get (I hope).

 

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Edited December 17, 2010 by joekicker

[tallguy 1,479]

I'm pretty sure they have football in the Olympics. It was in the newspaper recently.

 

The only thing that's surprising here is that the English FA is so strongly dedicated to kissing Mr Bladder's lower backside and feet after their very recent treatment. THAT is about as pusillanimous as a football association of any nation could ever get (I hope).

 

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Yes Joe they have football in the Olympics. However, if you had done any research you would know that this was nothing to do wth the English FA kissing the Swiss crook's arse.

 

As nidnoyham has tried to get through to you, the British Olympic Association is responsible for entering British competitors, whether teams or individuals, in the Olympic games, therefore any entry into the Olympic football competition would be on the basis of a Great Britain team. However England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all have their own Football Associations who run the game in their respective regions and are members of FIFA and eligible to enter individual teams in World Cups etc.

 

Great Britain does not enter teams into the Olympic Games football competition because the individual Football Associations fear that if they co-operated with the BOA in this regard then FIFA may put pressure on the individual associations to merge. All the regions concerned are proud of their individual and distinct 'national' identities meaning the idea of a merger is almost unthinkable.

 

The idea of a Great Britain football team playing in the Olympics has only arisen again because of London's hosting of the next games.

 

Understand!!!

 

TG

Edited December 17, 2010 by tallguy

[joekicker 53]

Great Britain does not enter teams into the Olympic Games football competition because the individual Football Associations fear that if they co-operated with the BOA in this regard then FIFA may put pressure on the individual associations to merge.

 

Er, yes, that's what I said. Bladder rules and everyone especially (in this case) the English FA is afraid to stand up.

 

Don't misunderstand. I think the whole idea of Britain having four football teams and one luge team is totally and stupidly ridiculous. But it is not as stupid or ridiculous (or shameful) as the FAs, starting with England (it is the London Olympics after all) telling Mr Bladder to be more gay and stick it. It is not as stupid or ridiculous (or shameful) as kowtowing and fearfully cavilling to FIFA -- the very WEEK after FIFA told the English FA to bend over and take it like a little girl and they did.

 

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[tallguy 1,479]

Er, yes, that's what I said. Bladder rules and everyone especially (in this case) the English FA is afraid to stand up.

 

Don't misunderstand. I think the whole idea of Britain having four football teams and one luge team is totally and stupidly ridiculous. But it is not as stupid or ridiculous (or shameful) as the FAs, starting with England (it is the London Olympics after all) telling Mr Bladder to be more gay and stick it. It is not as stupid or ridiculous (or shameful) as kowtowing and fearfully cavilling to FIFA -- the very WEEK after FIFA told the English FA to bend over and take it like a little girl and they did.

 

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Joe

 

The English FA is not the best run institution in the world and generally deserves most of the criticism which comes its way. However, your criticism of their behaviour in relation to Olympic participation and the recent world cup bid is misplaced.

 

If you re-read nidnoyham's comments you will note that.

 

1 The four home nations agreed 2 years ago that participation would be limited to English players only.

2 The British Olympics Association insists that all players are eligible.

3 The other three nations, (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), are worried that to send a mixed team to the Olympics would threaten their status within FIFA.

 

How does this equate to the English FA kissing Blatter's arse?

[CheshireTom 1,377]

Joe

 

The English FA is not the best run institution in the world and generally deserves most of the criticism which comes its way. However, your criticism of their behaviour in relation to Olympic participation and the recent world cup bid is misplaced.

 

If you re-read nidnoyham's comments you will note that.

 

1 The four home nations agreed 2 years ago that participation would be limited to English players only.

2 The British Olympics Association insists that all players are eligible.

3 The other three nations, (Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland), are worried that to send a mixed team to the Olympics would threaten their status within FIFA.

 

How does this equate to the English FA kissing Blatter's arse?

 

It's not their status within FIFA that concerns them, but their status on the IFAB - which FIFA would dearly love to have revoked for obvious reasons.

 

IFAB

[joekicker 53]

Interesting views, and thanks for them. At least no one is defending the English FA, so that's slight progress.

 

Just curious - have the other three nati.... er, somethings in Britain heard of North-South Korea? I s'pose not, it being pretty isolated and communications-free north of Glasgow, west of Cardiff, etc.

 

Sorry, but to me this just sounds more stick-in-the-mud, stubborn nonsense, INCLUDING the two-year-old decision on English-only. Two years ago, lots of promises were made. Things change, what's the problem to change with them? What's the problem to change PERIOD? Sounds to me you're saying there is to be no GB team ONLY in soccer ONLY because some old men say "no". Sounds exactly like Fifa (IOC, etc) to me.

 

Why should soccer be different? Why should the London organisers put up with that? Because nine corrupt old Welshman say "No"???

 

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