TheFiend

I have flown in a 747, and after that experience I go out of my way to avoid flying in one..... It is a dinosaur! And an ugly looking dinosaur at that!

The design of the 747 is over 40 years old........ it is a dinosaur, whose future is hauling cargo! It's sales in the passenger sector are now almost non-existent. Admit it Scalywally.... The 747 is dying a slow and painful death.

Apparently they expect it will take two weeks to fully power up the Nightmareliner..... and that's if everything goes to plan

The game isn't over Scalywally....... you are right. But let's compare the contenders..... The A380 has 192 firm orders, with airlines holding options for a further 48. that's with 14 airlines, 1 leasing company and 1 VIP. The 747-8 Intercontinental...... 1 Airline Customer with an order for 20, plus the 7 Boeing has ordered for itself. Both planes are targeted at the high capacity intercontinental routes. The market is there, as Airbus have proved - otherwise they couldn't have sold that many planes. As more and more enter service further orders will be won.

There are 27 orders for the 747-8 passenger version.... of which Boeing has ordered 7. The only customer to have ordered it it Lufhansa, which was placed in 2006. The passenger version is hardly a success, is it Scally? Incidentally... Lufthansa also has 15 A380s on order with options for a further 10, so the 747-8s have not been ordered in preference to the A380. Lufthansa ordered them to fit between the A340-600 and the A380, and of course received a very favourable discount to place the order. In the passenger sector the 747 is now a dinosaur and the falling order numbers for it show it to be true. The 747-8F gives the cargo operators increased payloads, so it was always going to attract orders.

Using "Quarters" gives Boeing a wide window to aim for, but to say flying by the end of summer could leave them with egg on their faces. Even after powering up the Nightmareliner for the first time there will be loads of systems testing and systems integration testing to carry out before they can even carry out pre-flight testing. Remember that this is a prototype aircraft which will no doubt have it's fair share of bugs and gremlins to sort out. So the reality is the Nightmareliner might be flying before the end of the year.!

Also from www.atwonline.com Friday June 6, 2008 And here is some more terrible news...... Somebody else ordering the dreaded A350XWB...... why can't they order the Nightmareliner? After all, the A350 is still years away from being built........... whereas the Nightmareliner is ready to fly

Nightmareliner customers not happy by the look of this

The slight delay on A380s programmed for delivery this year is caused by the changeover in production from having to modify the wiring on the early "builds" in the system to the modified wiring builds coming through now. Deliveries will be back on target shortly after the changeover is completed. The 747/8 is a failure as a passenger airliner......... end of story. There has been only 2 747s ordered this year. And those have been ordered by Boeing Business Jets. The plane is a dinosaur. As for the Nightmareliner....... it is now 11 months since it was unveiled to the public on the 8th of July last year..... and still the prototype has not been powered up! Even if they achieve power up shortly, there is a hell of a lot of systems commissioning and proof testing to be done before the Nightmareliner will even be allowed to fly. The 787 shell was rolled out of the factory last july..... and that is all it was - a shell with wheels on. And so far it has taken 11 months to get the shell anywhere near complete so that they can start doing testing. At least Airbus admit reasons for delays..... Boeing have tried to put the blame on everybody else but themselves.

Congrats Hybrid to you and your good lady...... and the little one

I wonder if Denny spent his time with the Soi 6 ladyboy discussing all things Airbus and Boeing?

Best of luck!!!! I'll have to call in when I get the chance to sample the place!

I fly with Emirates..... and shortly will be enjoying a reward flight MAN-DXB-BKK..... And on my last trip I enjoyed a free business class upgrade between DXB and BKK

Banana badges....... I've got them all some banana earrings off ebay for when I return And 1 or 2 other little suprise decorations for the bar...... ebay is my friend!

Yet another unhappy Nightmareliner customer And looking like additional orders for the A380 as well...... despite the slight adjustment of the delivery schedule recently announced.

Impressed.... you can have a virtual walk down Soi 6 :)

Boeing are still looking for the dummy they spat out when EADS/Northrop won the tanker contract...... and that is only going to add to the Nightmareliners delays........ most of the staff are still looking for the dummy. Why can't they just accept that they lost...

Singapore takes gets it's 4th A380

Good luck on the opening! I think I was lucky to get Banana Bar up and running in 8 days from take-over to opening night.

Managed to sell the D70 and the price I sold the D70 for was nearly what I paid for my mint D200

I have raided eBay and managed to find some of Banana themed decorations for the bar These will be smuggled into Thailand on my return!

Boeing is trapped in a nightmare as delays on the production of its 787 Dreamliner are causing airlines to raise hell. British Airways and Virgin Atlantic are in talks with The Boeing Co. (nyse: BA - news - people ) over expected delivery delays for the 787 Dreamliner aircraft they ordered in 2007. This is the fourth delay to occur on the aircraft. Virgin Atlantic is in talks with Boeing about compensation for the 15 extended-range 787-9s it originally expected to receive in early 2011, while BA is talking to Boeing about the 24 787s the company expected in the first quarter of 2010. Virgin has expressed interest in another 28 aircraft from Boeing in a deal worth $8 billion. Delays come from a redesign that Boeing is doing to parts of the aircraft. "It is a normal part of the development of a new airplane to discover need for improvements, and that is what we are experiencing on the 787," said Boeing spokeswoman Yvonne Leach. It said in February that it expected to deliver Dreamliners sometime in early 2009. Shares of Boeing were down .5%, or 39 cents, to $75.90 on Tuesday. The Associated Press and Thomson Financial contributed to this article. Looks like the Nightmareliner delays will start hitting Boeing in the pocket.

I got a very good deal on my D200, admittedly a used one but it is in excellent comdition.... and paid less than the cost of a new D80. The market is getting flooded with them as people are upgrading to the D300. I recently bought the Nikon 24-120 VR lens to use as my main lens, going for that lens as I can also use it on my Nikon film camera.

WHAT??? The D40x is at the bottom of Nikons DSLR range - I thought some one like yourslef who always boasts about "stuff" would have been buying a D3! I've just got myself a D200...