Retirement reporting

[jacko 8,814]

They gave me one year plus 6 weeks I had left on my O Visa, am I right in thinking I need to report 90 days from todays stamp , or indeed if I go a week early does my 90 days go from the register day, or just added to the 90 from todays date ?

Note Joe's reply on this one. A lot of people think that obtaining the retiremeent extension includes the 90 day reporting....no, it is separate. 90 days from entry or last reporting date.

[jacko 8,814]

Thats lucky, so the day I had to leave the country I need to report... I assumed it was 11th August.

 

You have saved me some aggro the visa could have been cancelled

The visa extension will be cancelled if you leave the country without an exit/re-entry permit.

 

I always put a multiple straight in there, sorted.

Edited August 16, 2011 by jacko

[Parkwahn 61]

The visa will be cancelled if you leave the country without an exit/re-entry permit.

 

I always put a multiple straight in there, sorted.

 

 

Thanks I will wander down and get one

[joekicker 53]

The visa will be cancelled if you leave the country without an exit/re-entry permit.

 

I always put a multiple straight in there, sorted.

 

Bit of a Catch-22. Your (multiple) re-entry is only good up to the visa extension. If you leave on the day your visa expires then, well, it expires. There is a period of time between when you apply for an extension and you get the extension that leaving is potentially dangerous, date-wise.

 

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[jacko 8,814]

Bit of a Catch-22. Your (multiple) re-entry is only good up to the visa extension. If you leave on the day your visa expires then, well, it expires. There is a period of time between when you apply for an extension and you get the extension that leaving is potentially dangerous, date-wise.

 

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I changed my post that you quoted... in the matter of stuff like this you have to get the words right.

Edited August 16, 2011 by jacko

[MM 6,562]

That's a good question. I didn't know about it until I got there to do mine. In fact, I walked in without reading what was posted on the door. At the desk I was told about it, and told it was posted. I looked on my way out and it was there, in English and Thai, but I hadn't noticed on my way in, or heard anything about it in advance. Who knows how much it will be enforced. I didn't have my rental agreement with me, but had it earlier when I got my new visa. I suggested getting the visa paperwork and I would copy it, he let me slide. They must have some discretion in what is required, I was 6 days early for my 90 day report, so they could have taken a hard line and told me to go get it.

 

With my first retirement visa, proof of residence is required, I told them that I was living in a hotel (true) and couldn't sign a 6 month or 1 year lease on a 30 day visa, it seemed to make sense to them and they let me slide. It used to be that they would take a bill of some sort, as proof of residence. I used my true satellite bill, the only thing in my own name. Now they want a rental agreement, or ownership papers. There was something about papers from company ownership that I took no notice of since it didn't effect me. They may be trying to find information on ex-pats are using dogy company ownerships of land and condo's.

 

I just went in for my 90 day reporting, and the sign says they will accept a billing to your residence address. I took a copy of my TOT phone bill, and that was fine.

 

 

 

[Parkwahn 61]

I just went in for my 90 day reporting, and the sign says they will accept a billing to your residence address. I took a copy of my TOT phone bill, and that was fine.

 

 

MM, apologies for being a dim coont, whats needed when you report ?

 

I wrongly it seems assumed you rocked up with your passport ?

 

Do you need to fill another form in and get another stamp ?

 

I got a retirement one then got asked to work !!! so I got a re entry that took half a page..

[MM 6,562]

MM, apologies for being a dim coont, whats needed when you report ?

 

I wrongly it seems assumed you rocked up with your passport ?

 

Do you need to fill another form in and get another stamp ?

 

I got a retirement one then got asked to work !!! so I got a re entry that took half a page..

 

Yeah, just the passport and something to show your residence (rental contract, house papers, utility bill sent to your address). I think this requirement is variable depending on which immigration office you report to. I hear that Sri Racha does not require proof of residence (yet).

 

From thai-visa, this is what you need to take in to the officer:

1. Include a photocopy the id/photo page of your passport

2. Photocopy of current visa

3. Photocopy of departure card

4. Photocopy of last entry stamp

5. Original of receipt of last 90 day notification (be sure to keep a copy for your records)

6. Completed 90 day notification (TM47)--be sure to sign it (and keep a copy for your records)

7. (new) something to show your residence (rental contract, house papers, utility bill sent to your address).

[9cisco999 107]

That's a good question. I didn't know about it until I got there to do mine. In fact, I walked in without reading what was posted on the door. At the desk I was told about it, and told it was posted. I looked on my way out and it was there, in English and Thai, but I hadn't noticed on my way in, or heard anything about it in advance. Who knows how much it will be enforced. I didn't have my rental agreement with me, but had it earlier when I got my new visa. I suggested getting the visa paperwork and I would copy it, he let me slide. They must have some discretion in what is required, I was 6 days early for my 90 day report, so they could have taken a hard line and told me to go get it.

 

With my first retirement visa, proof of residence is required, I told them that I was living in a hotel (true) and couldn't sign a 6 month or 1 year lease on a 30 day visa, it seemed to make sense to them and they let me slide. It used to be that they would take a bill of some sort, as proof of residence. I used my true satellite bill, the only thing in my own name. Now they want a rental agreement, or ownership papers. There was something about papers from company ownership that I took no notice of since it didn't effect me. They may be trying to find information on ex-pats are using dogy company ownerships of land and condo's.

 

 

 

 

that proof of residence seems to be a grey area. i didn't see it on the retirement visa requirements. I wonder if it's just a Jomtien requirement.

 

 

the new residence posting must have been after I received my visa at the end of august. I had no rental agreement and wasn't asked about one.

 

 

the OP should also be aware that leaving the country without notifying the immigration office and paying a fee will invalidate the retirement visa. this can be avoided by paying bt.3800 for an unlimited multi entry visa stamp.

[chris2004 67]

that proof of residence seems to be a grey area. i didn't see it on the retirement visa requirements. I wonder if it's just a Jomtien requirement.

 

 

the new residence posting must have been after I received my visa at the end of august. I had no rental agreement and wasn't asked about one.

 

 

the OP should also be aware that leaving the country without notifying the immigration office and paying a fee will invalidate the retirement visa. this can be avoided by paying bt.3800 for an unlimited multi entry visa stamp.

 

I thought the 3800 baht only bought you 4 exit/re-entries not unlimited.

[MM 6,562]

I thought the 3800 baht only bought you 4 exit/re-entries not unlimited.

 

It's unlimited.

[Aromaz 0]

As "Proof of Address" anything that is send to you by mail is acceptable. Can be bank statement, electrical, phone bill - even a copy of an magazine, as long as it has your name and your stated address on it. Your Thai driving license is also perfect.

Nowadays Pattaya requires copies of Passport, visa, entry and address document. Easy quick step, usually takes 5 to 10 minutes depending on que.

Time at counter per person about 4 minutes. Two officials process two people in 5 mintues cycles. (At 16h45 in afternoon they take 2 minutes per person). They staple a new tear-off from your TM-47 application in your passport which stated your next deadline for report.

You can report anything form 7 days before up to 7th day after that day with no penalty guaranteed. Mostly even later than 7 days does not get 'fined'.

 

Next 90 day is 90 days after your repor; thus if you report every 95th day - after 6 reports you would have 'gained' one 30 day month; same if you report 5 days before deadline, you loose because next report is 90 days after that report. The 90 day report is not linked to you visa - only to you last report date. Their stamps are set in the morning and never changed for whatever reason your reporting might be earlier or later - your stamp will be for 90 days later. At present my visa expires 15 Jan 2011, my next 90 day report is 6 February 2011.

 

Besides your travel cost to the office and drink if the que is very long - no charge at all.

Edited November 27, 2011 by Aromaz

[Parkwahn 61]

I was in UK for 11 weeks on my return (single entry) I did not get 90 days, my reporting date is 90 days from the start of my retirement visa, whuch was set 8 weeks after I applied as I had 90 days on arrival on O visa, I have been told on a multi you get 90 days, but on a single you dont....

[jacko 8,814]

Forgot to add,, 7 days late and it's 2,000 baht fine. Not sure if there is a fine for 1-6 days late.

I don't believe so, you are allowed to report a week either side.

[jacko 8,814]

They gave me one year plus 6 weeks I had left on my O Visa, am I right in thinking I need to report 90 days from todays stamp , or indeed if I go a week early does my 90 days go from the register day, or just added to the 90 from todays date ?

I believe it is 90 days from your previous reporting or entry into the country.

Renewing the extension is not counted as reporting.

Edited November 27, 2011 by jacko

[jacko 8,814]

Aw sod it, I'll go to Singapore for the weekend.

I'll start their 90 day reporting malarky when they get the roads sorted.

Edited November 27, 2011 by jacko

[aussiechic 209]

Apparently you can do it by mail

 

Siam legal cover it on their website.

[biggles 509]

I never cease to be amazed at the constance changes and the varying rule interpretations in the Thai retirement visa process. Contrast this with the philippines, where once you have a Resident Retirement visa:-

You never report to Immigration again, you are free to leave or return whenever you want to and you dont need an exit permit.

You dont apply for renewal every twelve months, its a Lifetime Visa. You get a permanent insert into your passport and a plastic ID Resident card. You pay no more fees other than $10 for the plastic card.

and they even pay a small interest on your term deposit at the bank.

wouldnt it be nice if the thai authorities were as progressive??

Edited November 27, 2011 by biggles

[MM 6,562]

I believe it is 90 days from your previous reporting or entry into the country.

Renewing the extension is not counted as reporting.

 

Yep. I just renewed my extension (1 year) on Nov 23, but still have to do my 90 day reporting on Dec 19, 90 days after my last report. Reporting has nothing to do with visa extension dates, only entry into the country or last reporting date.

[redwood13 56]

Report has to be done if you're in Thailand more than 90 consecutive days.

 

Rule change a few months ago: Report can be done 15 days prior to the due day. (And still 7 days after.)

 

Chonburi (Pattaya) charges 2000 baht for late reporting (beyond the 7 days grace period). Happened to me last month.

 

Not all immigration offices will accept reporting by mail.

 

-redwood

[joekicker 53]

I never cease to be amazed at the constance changes and the varying rule interpretations in the Thai retirement visa process. Contrast this with the philippines, where once you have a Resident Retirement visa:-

You never report to Immigration again, you are free to leave or return whenever you want to and you dont need an exit permit.

 

 

If you have a residence visa in Thailand, you report once a year to show you're still, well, residing. It is for lifetime, and it's a red book, about passport size. Thai authorities don't pay any interest on the money in the bank, because they don't require any money in the bank. It requires no money in the bank. It's very similar to a US green card, although in the US you don't have to report annually any more.

 

Don't mix up the Philippines residency and Thai non-residency, which you're kind of doing. There are very important differences.

 

wouldnt it be nice if the thai authorities were as progressive??

 

Or... isn't it great the Thai authorities are not as niggardly about resident visas for people who don't work as Australia?

 

I'd say it's all horses for courses. The thing is that the Thais (and the Australians) aren't much convinced that retired people do much for the country, and the Philippines folks are. That outlook is pretty important to the procedures.

 

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[Fondles 94]

Yep. I just renewed my extension (1 year) on Nov 23, but still have to do my 90 day reporting on Dec 19, 90 days after my last report. Reporting has nothing to do with visa extension dates, only entry into the country or last reporting date.

 

What extension are you on (O/B/Retirement etc) ?

 

Iam on a "B" extension with a WP and they give me 2 yr extensions.

[MM 6,562]

 

 

What extension are you on (O/B/Retirement etc) ?

 

Iam on a "B" extension with a WP and they give me 2 yr extensions.

Similar situation, but only year for both. I've been offered the 2 year WP, but not a 2 year visa extension. That would be great.

[Fondles 94]

Similar situation, but only year for both. I've been offered the 2 year WP, but not a 2 year visa extension. That would be great.

 

Well that licks balls doesn't it, wonder why they don't offer you a 2 yr extension ? they are great, just had to renew mine on Friday. All paperwork is done by the HR dept at work and I just need to show my face (4hr return drive to BKK and I was there for less than a minute!!!).

[Gary 4,119]

I think you'll find that different immigration offices have different rules. I use a small office in Loei province. There was a grouchy old bastard there who didn't like me and I certainly didn't like him. My Thai wife went with me a few times and she had no use for him because she thought he talked down to me. (Her words). For my 90 day address checks, I needed copies and forms.

 

Several months ago there must have been a major shakeup at that office. Imagine my surprise that there were all new people in that office and new procedures. At my last 90 day check in, I had all the usual bullshit copies and the required form. I gave the package to the new guy and he handed back everything except my passport. He went to his computer entered some information and printed out a receipt that had a bar code on it. He told me that the next time to forget the form and copies and just bring my passport and the bar coded paper.

 

I was pleased that he was very polite and professional. On November 16th I went for my one year retirement visa extension. Again no pain and no hassle. He wanted the completed TM 7, the bank letter, single copies of my bank book pages and single copies of the passport pages. He briefly looked at everything, stamped my passport and I was out of there within 15 minutes. Things have changed much for the better for me.

 

I was in and out so fast that I forgot to ask if they would accept the 90 day address check by mail. I'll ask the next time and I'll be surprised if they won't accept it.