Pity the Russian Tourists

[brotherbuzz 3,206]

Yes and Poland, Latvia, and a few others whom Russia is intimidating. For that matter I doubt you could find a European government who is happy with Putin, much less respect him. It takes a certain kind of person to respect Putin. Much less blame it on the US and/or US bankers.

Due to his blind devotion to the man, I sometimes I wonder if wac is on the Putin propaganda payroll.

[atlas2 4,329]

Due to his blind devotion to the man, I sometimes I wonder if wac is on the Putin propaganda payroll.

 

Or Snowden's.

[brotherbuzz 3,206]

 

Or Snowden's.

It's appearing that's the case more and more.

[wacmedia 277]

 

Hum, let me see if I have this straight. The US bankers are the reason Putin invaded Crimea? And the reason he has his troops in the Ukraine?

 

Out of curiosity do you respect Putin/Russia for the takeover of the Crimea?

 

Hi,

 

Read about Victoria Nuland and the takeover in Ukraine ?. When that happened Putin had no option but to take over Crimea. Remember that Russia has not bombed Syria, Afghanistan,Iraq or Libya amongst others. We have. Russia is not arming ISIS while pretending to fight them. We are. Russia did not kill thousands of people on 9/11......

[ttk 236]

 

 

Russia is a formidable enemy who. with respect to all the others, beat the Nazis in WW2.

25-30 million deaths out of a population of 168 million or about 15%

Germany 7-9 millionout of around 70 million

 

 

Hmmm. History might just show that the allies had a tiny part in the Commi's win.....not to mention the Rusdian winter

Edited June 16, 2015 by ttk

[nkped 1,208]

I recently attended a lunch time presentation by the Lithuanian ambassador to the U.S. In 1991, he had seen Soviet tanks on the street in Lithuania and has no doubt that Putin is cause of great concern to his country. In a line I suspect he had used before, he said something like "Putin being a good KGB agent, I guess it should be bad KGB agent, no, actually Putin was a mediocre KGB agent."

 

One of his proposed solutions was the permanent stationing of a NATO brigade in the Baltic states, a battalion each in Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania.

[brotherbuzz 3,206]

When that happened Putin had no option but to take over Crimea.

Technically he had the option not to "take over Crimea" wac, but I'll try and remember your philosophy on such matters when it's the side you are not on that chooses an option.

[atlas2 4,329]

This is an interesting recent article……..Gives an assessment of the cards Putin holds and some of the bluff he employs. The last chips his side of the table apart from Europe's energy reliance are the heavy ones…his nukes. Let's hope there are no miscalculations . There's no real reason to think there will be but he must be taken seriously and know that we are serious.

 

…………….By the time of the Cuban missile crisis there were already 150 nuclear weapons in Cuba.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/17/world/europe/putin-40-new-missiles-russian-nuclear-arsenal.html

Edited June 17, 2015 by atlas2

[Gary 4,119]

Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately nuclear weapons make conventional warfare obsolete. The latest and most high tech aircraft carrier with its support group could be taken out with one small but very powerful weapon. If some crazy decides to do that, the world as we know it would be changed forever. A VERY scary situation that we live with. I don't doubt for a minute that soon some terrorist nation will have nuclear capability. I don't have to remind you that North Korea already has nukes. People who have no problem killing innocent people with suicide bombers would not hesitate to use those weapons.

[wacmedia 277]

Technically he had the option not to "take over Crimea" wac, but I'll try and remember your philosophy on such matters when it's the side you are not on that chooses an option.

 

Hi,

 

When the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact disappeared NATO should have been abolished as well. The West gave promises to Russia that have not been honoured. NATO is now moving in to countries that are on Russia's front porch. JFK faced up to the Soviet Union in Cuba and I think Putins moves are similar to what JFK did in that situation. If Russia moved troops and Nuclear missiles into Mexico would you expect your Gov to do nothing about it ? As you know I look at the Big Picture and I expect the Fed to be history soon. IMO the US is going the way of the Soviet Union, and Texas is making its own arrangements.

 

http://thewealthwatchman.com/texas-fires-a-massive-volley-in-the-fight-for-honest-money/

 

Texas was on the verge of taking steps that would put their state on the cusp of a silver and gold revolution.

 

Well, over the weekend, we got some pretty unreal news on that front. As on Friday(June 12th), Texas Governor, Greg Abbot, finally signed the bill which would codify the establishment of a state-run depository for gold and silver bullion!

 

The First Bail-In

But first though, let’s remember one thing that prompted this bill’s passage. Everyone makes the mistake of calling Cyprus the first, major financial “bail-in”, where depositors’ wealth was seized without recourse…but that’s not exactly true. If we’re simply talking about depositors losing their true wealth, due to being considered “unsecured creditors”, then the first major instance of that occurring was not in Cyprus, but somewhere else entirely…

 

 

For you see, this article was quite right: MF Global bullion depositors did indeed lose their allocated gold and silver bullion during that bankruptcy, as their receipts for their metals were not honored. For far too long, people have had a false sense of security about the safety of their cash in the banking system, due to “guarantees” from the FDIC(which as we’ve covered before, will not be honored in the next crisis whatsoever).

However, those guarantees cover cash and cash repayments only. They do not pertain to precious metal holdings within those same banks at all. To my knowledge, no one in any federal agency, is directly required by law, to make privately-owned, specie payments whole again, after a bankruptcy.

[wacmedia 277]

 

They still have over 8400 nukes…..that's more than any other country. They have to be taken seriously.

 

That's the trouble with nukes……..ransoms can be demanded.

 

The weight of matter that fueled the Hiroshima bomb was equal to a paper clip. It's well known that 'suitcase' bombs have been manufactured, easy to 'lose' one of those……….

 

Hi,

 

The most likely users of that type of device is the bankers. A false flag in US is quite possible with the blame laid at anothers door in order to bring the people on side. It's happened before and is the most likely scenario. I have faith that patriotic Americans will prevent that happening. Hope I'm right.

[atlas2 4,329]

 

Hi,

 

The most likely users of that type of device is the bankers. A false flag in US is quite possible with the blame laid at anothers door in order to bring the people on side. It's happened before and is the most likely scenario. I have faith that patriotic Americans will prevent that happening. Hope I'm right.

 

Wac….. are the banker's the only villains on the planet??……..Only they have murderous intent?? It always comes back to them!!

 

Everyone else….North Korea…..Putin……..Isis……The US State Dept…….Israel……. are just the Banker's pawns played by Mr Pennyworth!

 

It would be comforting to believe there's someone with control over chaos.

 

We've been here before I believe.

 

Ahh well at least some things are predictable.

[wacmedia 277]

 

Wac….. are the banker's the only villains on the planet??……

 

Hi,

 

The fundamental truth that people, especially Americans, seem to ignore is the financial position the Fed is in. If you understand the position they are in it explains most of their moves. One can tell who are not the pawns of the bankers. They will be attacked and vilified and eventually the troops will moved in. JFK decided to take them on and voila ! America needs a JFK like figure at this point in history.

[atlas2 4,329]

 

Hi,

 

The fundamental truth that people, especially Americans, seem to ignore is the financial position the Fed is in. If you understand the position they are in it explains most of their moves. One can tell who are not the pawns of the bankers. They will be attacked and vilified and eventually the troops will moved in. JFK decided to take them on and voila ! America needs a JFK like figure at this point in history.

 

So by Bankers you mean the Rothschild's….. 'Let me print the money and I don't care what the laws say'….or along those lines can't remember the exact quote. Lincoln also tried to get control of printing dollars I believe.

 

Well whatever!

 

As for nukes…….You may all be interested to know that if you use iTunes…..you will have already agreed not to use Apple products to make a nuclear weapon.

Edited June 17, 2015 by atlas2

[wacmedia 277]

 

 

As for nukes…….You may all be interested to know that if you use iTunes…..you will have already agreed not to use Apple products to make a nuclear weapon.

 

Hi,

 

We are not living in times where such jokes are appropriate.

[nkped 1,208]

 

Hi,

 

The fundamental truth that people, especially Americans, seem to ignore is the financial position the Fed is in. If you understand the position they are in it explains most of their moves. One can tell who are not the pawns of the bankers. They will be attacked and vilified and eventually the troops will moved in. JFK decided to take them on and voila ! America needs a JFK like figure at this point in history.

A couple of thoughts:

1. CTers seem to be totally unacquainted with the notion of context. This clip appears to be from JFK's speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961. The You Tube clip is deceptive as it was not a speech to a joint session of Congress. If you look at the transcript there is absolutely nothing about the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx.
2. Listening to it, I am inclined to think JFK would have been greatly concerned about Putin's aggression.

Edited June 17, 2015 by nkped

[jacko 8,822]

 

Hi,

 

The most likely users of that type of device is the bankers. A false flag in US is quite possible with the blame laid at anothers door in order to bring the people on side. It's happened before and is the most likely scenario. I have faith that patriotic Americans will prevent that happening. Hope I'm right.

Yeah I spotted one on somebody's desk from the HSBC teller's counter.

[Fatboyfat 361]

A couple of thoughts:

 

• CTers seem to be totally unacquainted with the notion of context. This clip appears to be from JFK's speech to the American Newspaper Publishers Association on April 27, 1961. The You Tube clip is deceptive as it was not a speech to a joint session of Congress. If you look at the transcript there is absolutely nothing about the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve http://www.jfklibrary.org/Research/Research-Aids/JFK-Speeches/American-Newspaper-Publishers-Association_19610427.aspx.
• Listening to it, I am inclined to think JFK would have been greatly concerned about Putin's aggression.

Is that ol' BigPeanutUSA behind JFK in that video pic?

[wacmedia 277]

 

If you look at the transcript there is absolutely nothing about the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve

 

Hi,

 

A little of what he said. I think it is hard to misinterpret what he was refering to.

 

"The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it.

 

Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in insuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it. And there is very grave danger that an announced need for increased security will be seized upon those anxious to expand its meaning to the very limits of official censorship and concealment.

 

That I do not intend to permit to the extent that it is in my control. And no official of my Administration, whether his rank is high or low, civilian or military, should interpret my words here tonight as an excuse to censor the news, to stifle dissent, to cover up our mistakes or to withhold from the press and the public the facts they deserve to know."

 

For we are opposed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence--on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice, on guerrillas by night instead of armies by day. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly efficient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific and political operations.

 

Its preparations are concealed, not published. Its mistakes are buried not headlined. Its dissenters are silenced, not praised. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed."

[Gary 4,119]

While Wac is somewhat paranoid, I view the USA as being heading to the point of total implosion. The national debt of 18 trillion dollars can never be re-paid. China is the key. If the US dollar is ever replaced as the world reserve currency, the entire US economy will collapse. That's not likely to happen as long as China can use US dollars to purchase all their imports. They will continue to support the dollar as long as possible. This will continue as it is because the liberals already have more than half the votes necessary to continue the lunacy. Printing presses running 24/7 printing funny money will continue. I have no idea what the answer is. I think it is too late for rational people to solve the problems.

[jacko 8,822]

While Wac is somewhat paranoid, I view the USA as being heading to the point of total implosion. The national debt of 18 trillion dollars can never be re-paid. China is the key. If the US dollar is ever replaced as the world reserve currency, the entire US economy will collapse. That's not likely to happen as long as China can use US dollars to purchase all their imports. They will continue to support the dollar as long as possible. This will continue as it is because the liberals already have more than half the votes necessary to continue the lunacy. Printing presses running 24/7 printing funny money will continue. I have no idea what the answer is. I think it is too late for rational people to solve the problems.

And the fact that they own a serious chunk of US debt.

[wacmedia 277]

I view the USA as being heading to the point of total implosion. The national debt of 18 trillion dollars can never be re-paid. I think it is too late for rational people to solve the problems.

 

Hi,

 

Good post, Gary. If I said that they'd say I was wacko. It's not a good position to be in when the Chinese can destroy you if they want to. As Jacko says they own a lot of the debt so can pull the plug anytime they want. That's why I think the bankers have chosen war. It's started already but has not gone nuclear, yet !

[wacmedia 277]

Due to his blind devotion to the man, I sometimes I wonder if wac is on the Putin propaganda payroll.

 

Or Snowden's.

 

Hi,

 

I think some of the posters on this thread are On the Square.

[wacmedia 277]

, I view the USA as being heading to the point of total implosion. The national debt of 18 trillion dollars can never be re-paid.

 

Hi,

 

This guy has a similar opinion of the €.

 

https://larouchepac.com/20150618/dump-londons-phony-debts-glass-steagall-euro-bankrupt-not-drachma

 

With the Greek Parliament's Debt Truth Commission having just found Greece's entire debt to the Troika to be "illegitimate and odious," EIR Founding Editor and economist Lyndon LaRouche yesterday called attention to the "overall picture on euro debt." LaRouche said:

 

"You cannot sustain the euro system, it is intrinsically bankrupt,"

 

"If you base a 'debt deal' on that system — any 'debt deal,' that deal will fail. The fraud of what Wall Street and London banks are calling 'their debt assets', has to be eliminated, because populations — not only the Greeks — are being beaten down by worthless claims. Cancel those claims.

[js007 795]

It sort of seems like most of the Western world is in deep trouble. The USA, Europe, Japan. Even China has trouble brewing, according to some. In other words, if most of the word's economies have similar problems with debt, maybe the problems aren't so bad after all? Personally, I'm hoping that the system continues limping along for the rest of my natural life.