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So what do we do to prepare for a dry season water shortage?

I assume/hope it will not affect bottled water. Can anyone confirm that?

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25 minutes ago, Bazle said:

So what do we do to prepare for a dry season water shortage?

I assume/hope it will not affect bottled water. Can anyone confirm that?

Bottled water in Thailand comes from a combination of sources; tap, well, underground, and springs.

Most of Thailand's spring water comes from the north, and in the central regions only 3 or 4 companies are licensed to pump water from underground sources to make bottled water.

In the Pattaya area bottled water unless sold/distributed from the above northern sources, tends to be from well and tap water which will not dry up as much as become more costly to produce as the water has a higher mineral and salts/calcium carbonates content in drought conditions and becomes more expensive to filter.

But about the only effects on consumers will be pricing will go up nominally; likely not enough to notice, e.g., a 12-pack of 600 Ml bottles at Makro might go from 45 to 49 baht.

 

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For houses one has to order a truck/ tanker to come deliver and fill your tank up. I have never had to do this in my current place, but my prior rental I had to do it quite often. The pipework was rubbish there, always failing and even when there was water it had hardly any pressure and those with below ground tanks fared better. Trouble is once this system gets organised and palms are being greased, one finds utility water is being cut more often by a guy with some money in his pocket.

My neighbour has an automatic sprinkler system and a monthly water bill of around 4000 baht, that won't help supplies. Another actually had a bore hole but it has dried up. My Mrs uses water like it is a never ending supply, house cleaning day a small pool's worth gets used. Why anyone needs to flush a toilet 3 times per visit I never could understand.

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Nice day for a bike ride, so took my mtn bike out to Mabprachan reservoir to see if it was now low enough to ride across.

Entered the bike path around the reservoir on the SW end.
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Compared to the pic from last month, the water level at the overflow outlet looks to be down another meter. Pic from today.
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And from 10 Nov
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Imagine the volume of water lost from the reservoir. The high water mark is the dark patch of concrete about 6m up from the water.
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The new and quite a bit larger beach on the NW end.
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Unfortunately my hope of being able to ride across the lake bottom was dashed when I encountered numerous channels that blocked me from my goal.
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And no, I wasn't about to cheat by using this "bridge".
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Still an island, but not for much longer.
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Same view from 10 Nov
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With another 5+ months to go before the next rainy season, there's a good chance this island will look like it did on 7 Sept 2015.
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The birds don't see to be bothered by the low water level.
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But this guy can no longer cast a line from his front porch.
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Same view from 10 Nov
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I'm now on the north end looking south when I noticed more and more of the birds taking flight.
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I use to fly sailplanes for fun and I'm pretty sure what happened is my riding the mtn bike across the dry ground on the north end kicked loose a thermal. Use to see that quite a bit when I flew in Wisconsin. When I was getting low I'd look for a farmer plowing his field and it was almost a sure bet if I loitered around the area for a few minutes I would be rewarded with a thermal to gain back altitude in. Anyhoo, the birds probably saw a few of their friends having fun in the thermal and soon the whole extended family joined them.

 

They might have to soon rename the reservoir to Mabprachan Desert.
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These guys standing around in the middle of the reservoir demonstrate it isn't that deep in parts.
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This is another marker of how low the water level is.
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Soon the outlet channel will be higher than the water and this part will turn into a stagnant pond.
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I was in an 'ahem' 'establishment' yesterday and they had no incoming water. Whether it was anything to do with the damned roadworks outside I am unsure. It doesn't bide well for the rest of the dry season. 

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3 hours ago, jacko said:

I was in an 'ahem' 'establishment' yesterday and they had no incoming water. Whether it was anything to do with the damned roadworks outside I am unsure. It doesn't bide well for the rest of the dry season. 

Along 3240 on the north side of the reservoir they're laying and connecting new water pipes. 

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There's also a notice a lot of the darkside will be without water today. Although I saw a post on another forum that said the water outages have been happening for a few days now.

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22 hours ago, jacko said:

I was in an 'ahem' 'establishment' yesterday and they had no incoming water. Whether it was anything to do with the damned roadworks outside I am unsure. It doesn't bide well for the rest of the dry season. 

How did you get the Oil off then? 😀😀

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4 hours ago, Butch said:

How did you get the Oil off then? 😀😀

They had one of those big tubs and a plastic cup, and fortunately for me (not for who pays the bills), I think it had previously been topped off from the electric shower. So tepid. Those run down places without water tanks, pumps and electric showers will not be seeing my custom. 

Oh... and I often ask for lotion.... 

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It's been two weeks and two days since the last update, so hopped on my bike and had a very enjoyable ride this morning around what remains of Mabprachan Reservoir.

Starting again on the southwest side.
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More spots that were previously underwater are now exposed.
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Wish they would mount a water level gage to this structure. I'm estimating the water is down another 1/2 meter or so since the last update.
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I wonder how much longer it will be before this guy can walk to his fishing camp.
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They're now having to pump water from the low spots.
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Another couple of weeks and there will be no need for a bridge over this channel.
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A babbling brook in the middle of what was once a lake.
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The island is now a peninsula.
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On the north end looking south.
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Fishing is a lot easier when they fish are trapped in what remains of the water on the north end.
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Mabprachan is fast becoming a lush meadow. Can't really call it "lush" as the dominant flora are thorn bushes.
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A bit of a technical ride to get out to the far end of this exposed rock outcropping.
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Had to ride over a lot of broken shells and gnarly rocks to get to the far end, but this was the view looking back.
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And the view towards the dam at the west end of the reservoir.
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Now back at the southwest side. I see they've closed off the channel into the pond within a lake and are now having to pump water into the pond.
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At the rate the water level is dropping it doesn't bode well for the Pattaya area in the coming months. As the next rainy season is a long way off, I expect we'll see severe water rationing measures to conserve what little remains of the water supply.

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As much rain as Thailand gets, it's a wonder how it's possible there can be a water shortage. This is just poor mismanagement of resources. We are not living in a desert or arid region. The average annual rainfall is 1117.6mm, that's a little more than Washington DC and about double what London gets (583.6mm).

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Made it out to Huai Chak Nok Reservoir today. Water level is looking pretty dire there too. Here's the view from the dam end on the NW side.
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Close up of the outflow structure to use as a benchmark for the water level.
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A lot of what was once under water on the south end of the dam is now dry.
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Here's a screenshot of the satellite view of the reservoir with a maker of where the above pic was taken. Image is from Nov, 2018 and gives an idea of how far the water has receded.
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They have pumps going to move trapped water on the south end into what remains of the reservoir.
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It's going to be quite a while before this overflow outlet will be needed again.
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A bit of hike from this side of the reservoir to get to the water's edge.
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The cows are enjoying their new pasture land.
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The view from the north end looking south towards the dam in the far distance.
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And on the other side of the road, looking north.
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Easy pickings for the fishermen.
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Side note: I've edited the topic title to reflect that posts here cover all the shrinking water sources for Pattaya.

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Time for another bi-weekly update on the shrinking Mabprachan Reservoir. For this update the Google Earth screenshot below has markers that identify where a picture was taken. It will also give you a good idea of how much water has been lost from the reservoir. Satellite image is from Nov 5, 2018.
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Pic 1
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Best estimate, down another 1/2 m from the last update on 26 December. 
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Pic 2: Pretty soon the pumping station will be sucking more sand than water.
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This water intake has been left high and dry for some time now.
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Pic 3: The water in the channel is now shallow enough to walk across, but the problem is you'd be up to your knees in mud.
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Pic 4: Hard to see in this pic, but you can now walk, or in my case ride a mtn bike to the island without getting wet. 
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Pic 5: A small waterfall where once was a lake.
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Pic 6: You can now walk to the fishing camp that once required a boat to access. 
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Pic 7
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pic 8
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Pic 9: View from the north side of what's left of the reservoir.
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Pic 10
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Pic 11: Standing near the north end of what remains of the main body of water in the reservoir. I'll mark how far the water has receded in future updates.
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Pic 12: Rode out to a point near the middle of the reservoir that used to underwater.
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Pic 13: Another path you can walk or ride out into the middle of the reservoir.
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Pic 14: View from the end of that path.
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Pic 15
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Pic 16: Looks like they increased the height of the retaining wall of the pond.
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They are putting new pipes in around my area, and as per usual, the digging hit the old pipes and a nearby street became a river. My Mrs asked the security man of a village there, did you call water people for fix... he looked at her as if she was mad, sort of 'why should I get involved?' Nobody arrived for a long time, these things often seem to happen on a Friday late afternoon. My water was out all night, but back on in the morning. Other than that, the water seems to be going off, or very low pressure, late mornings to mid afternoon now, but I have a tank. Anybody else getting regular cuts? 

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I have two tanks. The one that's topped up from the city water supply is underground so can't tell when the supply is cut. The second one is above ground and topped up from the underground tank. That tank then feeds the house through a pressure booster pump, so always have good water pressure.

Since my lady's main hobby is her garden, I estimate we use about 100L every two days for watering the garden. For that I just installed a 1000L tank to collect rainwater runoff from the roof gutters. All we need now is a good downpour to fill that tank and we're good for 20 days with no rain.

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21 hours ago, forcebwithu said:

I have two tanks. The one that's topped up from the city water supply is underground so can't tell when the supply is cut. The second one is above ground and topped up from the underground tank. That tank then feeds the house through a pressure booster pump, so always have good water pressure.

Since my lady's main hobby is her garden, I estimate we use about 100L every two days for watering the garden. For that I just installed a 1000L tank to collect rainwater runoff from the roof gutters. All we need now is a good downpour to fill that tank and we're good for 20 days with no rain.

My rainwater collection is off the gutter into 2 plastic bins.... that is all pretty much gone. A single tank for house supply, 2500l can keep me going probably for a week but only if the Mrs is told. I run all of it through the tank as it comes out cleaner and I even add a touch of chlorine to it...... so if my utility supply goes off I wouldn't know unless I took a look at the pressure gauge... yes I put one in! If my electric is off I can bypass the tank. 

I was in the garden yesterday listening to the pump kick in and out as my Mrs cleaned house, boy can that woman waste water. Thais seem to really like spray nozzles!

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2 hours ago, jacko said:

My rainwater collection is off the gutter into 2 plastic bins.... that is all pretty much gone. A single tank for house supply, 2500l can keep me going probably for a week but only if the Mrs is told. I run all of it through the tank as it comes out cleaner and I even add a touch of chlorine to it...... so if my utility supply goes off I wouldn't know unless I took a look at the pressure gauge... yes I put one in! If my electric is off I can bypass the tank. 

I was in the garden yesterday listening to the pump kick in and out as my Mrs cleaned house, boy can that woman waste water. Thais seem to really like spray nozzles!

Keeping in shape for Songkran. 

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took mom inlaw to las vegs 10 years back. went for drive in desert

down to needles her comment on everything brun up dead.

why they no water it.

moral to this is thais have no concept of life with little or no water

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2 hours ago, aj said:

moral to this is thais have no concept of life with little or no water

I was with a colleague from the Mid East in upstate New York, he was dumbfounded that Ontario was a fresh water lake!

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