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Hi Bruce Hope you are enjoying Blighty. I think I finally have this sorted. From now on log ins will default to 'not remember' as will quick log ins. The only way to stay logged in between sessions will be to log in via the log in screen and explicitly select the remember me option. This will not affect machines that already have a cookie to be remembered. I will do a reset on Thursday causing everyone to have to log in again which will catch all the existing cookies. Meanwhile if you want to force the issue, log out on the offending machine and log in again with the default 'Remember Me - No' option.

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Hi Chico I was doing some maintanance work on the site yesterday that may have caused your problems. Is it OK now? Pete

I'm not quite following you there, khaoboy. Can you be a liitle more specific.

Third Time Unlucky: This will be the third time I’ve mentioned the demise of the Goldfingers ogling den in Soi 7, but once again it is unclear as to whether the place has finally succumbed, or merely been forced to shut its doors for around 30 days due to the dancing damsels suffering a series of wardrobe malfunctions. This is one of Pattaya’s ‘black holes’ and I can only suggest that if it has indeed be finally forced to shut up shop, whoever is game enough to try and make the place work as an ogling den does a Sweethearts/The Dollhouse on it. That is, take the old, dark, dingy-looking front and refurbish it so it looks cool and inviting (ala Sweethearts along Walking Street when it was transmogrified into The Dollhouse). A Withdrawal By Any Other Name: If ever I have seen a wonderful appellative for a boozer it has to be this one, down in Soi 8, opposite the Flipper Lodge Hotel: the A.T.M. bar. The girls are standing by to take your order now. Next Time I’ll Wear My Glasses: My humble apologies to the operators of the new 2XS ogling den (Pattayaland Soi 1) who have not increased their prices for booze since taking over the old Spicy Girls Too. I suggested in my last missive prices had been increased to 85 baht for Chang amber and 95 baht for liver wasters, but this was incorrect. I can’t even claim inebriation as an excuse for my mistake. As of early May the new owners have not officially opened the den, but I’m led to believe once a little more tweaking at the edges has been completed there will be a grand opening party (I can just see the balloon chasers salivating with anticipation). I have to say I believe 95 baht for liver wasters in a neck of the woods that is attempting to draw custom away from the fleshpots of Walking Street is not value for money. And this applies to pretty much every ogling den away from Walking Street, not just 2XS. Can I respectfully suggest somewhere in the region of 75-85 baht offers greater value for money unless the new owners do manage to recruit a plethora of delectable dancing damsels; then you can charge like a wounded buffalo and still pack the joint out every night. Slip This Inn: The Cockwell Inn dine and dash establishment (for non-Brits, say it slowly) re-opened its doors on Pattayaland Soi 1 a few months ago, this time next door to the old Giligin’s ogling den. Regulars might recall the Sierra Tango (S/T) boozer was first located across the road a few years ago, closed down, and then re-surfaced in Pattaya Bazaar (north Pattaya). Stand By for Number 27: Given the distinct paucity of chrome pole talent around at present, it may come as a surprise to learn that yet another ogling den is set to open its doors on Walking Street. The place will become the 27th such establishment on the strip and the 52nd overall in Fun Town (not including Jomtien). The way things are developing there’ll soon be more chrome pole palaces than som tam carts in the city. Couldn’t Lie Straight in Bed: As most ex-pats and regulars know only too well, Fun Town was a wasteland until about two or three months ago. That’s the usual length of time a bargirl will admit to having been in Pattaya. Of course, most of the time that’s a load of bat guano; I can think of any number of ladies who’ve been plying their trade so long they’ve seen more male appendages than any group of overworked prostate specialists. Usually the damsels are quite adept at remembering the lies they tell, at least for the duration of the conversation. However, I was in Vixens (Soi Diamond) recently and had the following chat with a friendly dancer: “How long have you been working here?” I asked. “One week,” she replied, all demure and coquettish. “Where were you working before? I asked, meaning what bar. “I was a cleaner at the airport.” We continued to converse for a few more minutes and then she suddenly said: “I remember you.” I thought she was going to tell me I’d tripped over her broom in front of the baggage carousel; or smudged her freshly mopped floor in the gents. “Yes. Before you have lady this bar; small body,” she continued. “When?” “About three years ago,” she replied. Hmmm, what was that about working in Vixens for one week? Try This Quick Quiz: The OK Corral beer boozer and golfing haven (Soi Skaw Beach) has now joined the Wednesday night quiz league; the other competitors are now shaking in their collective boots. The Happy Bar 2 (Second Road, down from Soi 8) has been sold and dropped out of the Sunday quiz league, but indications are that a new boozer will soon take their place. The Bowling Green (Soi Drarin, off Soi Chaiyapoon) hosted the end-of-league party for the Wednesday night brigade on 5 May with a truly magnificent spread. Forget the usual skewered pig, stale buns and limp vegetables, this was a buffet worthy of a five-star sleeping palace. If, as I suspect, the regular fare in the Bowling Green is as good as the spread they laid on for the quizateers, then those who like their English nosh should give the place a try. To the best of my knowledge, only one balloon chaser managed to brazen his way into the nosh-up, filling what was an already large plate to overflowing. I’m reliably told by those who know this poor excuse for a human being that he would more than likely have brought along a few plastic Tupperware containers to store his leftovers. Going through changes: Nothing ever seems to stand still for too long in much of the bar scene in Fun Town; for those who come a couple of times a year the changes must be daunting at times. In recent weeks, for example, the After That boozer in Soi 7 has turned out the lights and moved to the Greenhouse complex on Second Road; the operator of the popular Seventh Heaven bakery off Soi Chaiyapoon has closed up shop and, apparently, decided to try his hand at leavening loaves in Cambodia; the Dunkin Donuts franchise along Beach Road (near Soi 13), which has been helping maintain the sugar levels of sweet-toothed customers for as long as I’ve been coming here, has also gone, leaving a larger hole than normal. Dentists around town are in denial. The Mummies late night boogie barn (Third Road) appears to have attracted more adverse publicity than punters and, according to a sign hanging out front, is up for sale. What about somebody buying it and building a beer bar complex? Down the road apiece the first fetish boozer in Fun Town, The Cave, changed its name to The Castle after its elder sibling in Bangkok was raided by the plod and persons inside were discovered to be maltreating various strains of vegetables and misusing sundry plastic utensils. It’s my understanding that apart from the name change everything else remains as before. Champion ogling den (Walking Street) was ordered closed for 30 days in mid-April by the upholders of moral decency after it was discovered the dancing maidens kept suffering severe wardrobe malfunctions. It’s not known whether the objection was for showing too much flesh or if it was more a case that what the largely veteran chrome pole molesters were showing was in extremely poor taste. It might come as no surprise that the very next night the long-defunct Private Dancer ogling den, upstairs from Champion, opened for business with the same clutch of dancing maidens who, just a night earlier, had been happily malfunctioning downstairs. Finally, around three months ago the Freeway ogling den and aquarium (Pratamnak Road) unfortunately dispensed with its swimming show and turned its pool into a fish tank. The boozer is beautifully appointed and the dancing music was good but the swimming show was really the only reason most punters would be bothered making the trek to the joint. The last time I went in there were only around seven or eight dancing maidens and when the fish look more interesting than the chrome pole huggers it’s time to move on. My e-mail address is: nightmarch@hotmail.com

Well it's a bit tricky. I just changed the default size for avatars to 140x100, to make better use of the space available. If your avatar is bigger than that it will be resized to those dimensions. One answer if you want a square avatar is to edit it into a 140x100 sized image. Too much for most people but I just did it to your avatar to show that it can be done. I need to redo mine too.

Yes. I did notice. I am not sure why that happened. Something in the moving process, probably some obscure parameter on the new server somewhere, that was different from the old server. I hope we will be here for a very long time now and won't have to deal with these issues again. As you can see, new posts are not effected.

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Some of us think it is a little unwise of Bkk Tonight to be as open as it is. You never know who might stumble across these forums and some topics are best kept away from some people. If we have too many hoops then I'm sorry BUT it does help keep the site secure and operational. If it is absolutely impossible for you to get a non-web based email address you can PM me and I might give you access anyway, once I am sure you are who you say you are. BTW, elite is the word, not elete. Are you really a professor?

The open forum is for discussing Pattaya apart from bars, bar girls, bar boys, bar anything. There is a members forum specifically for that. It's been clear to everyone else for five years. I have limited space and don't want to spell out every little thing but please do not post about bars or bar girls or any related matters in the open forum where people who do not wish to be exposed to these things might stumble across it. Clear!

The site has been down for about 4 hours. The server crashed for some reason and I just checked it before going to bed for the night. Should be OK now.

If the government of Fearless Leader is genuinely concerned about the social dislocation caused by entertainment venues being allowed to remain open beyond midnight, then surely the gaze of ministers like No Matter, Preacher Malcontent and Purely Puritanical is pointed in the wrong direction when they demand the emasculation of boozers catering largely to foreign tourists and ex-pats. Their public statements make it clear the government wants to curb under-age drinking, drug selling and taking, and prostitution. Only in the latter is the attack against chrome pole palaces, beer boozers and the like in any way justified. While ogling dens are compelled to follow the letter of the law and close their doors at 2:00AM, and beer boozers and Sierra Tango joints turn off their lights and music at the same time, you could be deaf, dumb and almost blind and still be able to stumble upon a veritable plethora of karaoke joints still kicking on into the early hours of the morning. While they may close the front door and dim the outside lights, most karaoke boozers continue to operate with impunity and rake in the cash from, shock horror, predominantly Thai revellers. By this time the majority of foreign tourists and locals are tucked up in bed with a hot cocoa and a water bottle. Are the peelers aware of what’s happening under their noses? You get one guess. It’s hardly a revelation to note that under-age drinking, selling and taking of illegal substances, and prostitution are almost de rigueur in many of these places. Add to that, drunk riding, shootings, muggings and robbery, and from my limited perspective it seems as though the focus on foreign-run operations seems to be more for international cosmetic appeal than a genuine attempt to reduce social ills. Home Side Keeps On Keeping On: After a break of around six weeks, the Diamond ogling den (Soi Diamond) held its third dance contest for the year on Saturday night 10 April. Some 16 dancers representing the home side (four), Big Willies (two), Marilyn (three), Polo (two), What’s Up (two) and three freelancers gave the judges a tough task, especially when one group decided to employ ice cubes in their presentation and another team had bananas as a prop. Just in case you’re wondering, they ate them during their performance. In the finish, a Diamond dancer narrowly won the contest with What’s Up second and one of the freelancers taking third position. The Miss Flower contest (for the most popular dancer among customers) went to one of the three Marilyn girls. At the time of writing I’m unaware of the date for the next contest. Remember The Alamo: Garrulous Gary, Soi 8’s resident card shark, celebrated his “28th” birthday (this is before VAT, government tax and stamp duty) on 23 April in his bar The Alamo. The boozer is located right next door to the Silver Star ogling den and provides a nice vantage point to watch the comings and goings in that part of the soi. Still Dipped in Gold: It appears as though my statement about the demise of the Goldfingers ogling den (Soi 7) was premature. The chrome pole palace was indeed closed down, but only for three days, and although one of the previous operators has decided to call it quits, the other owners are persevering. Business seemed reasonable when I wandered in on a Friday evening recently; for a small ogling den there were enough chrome pole molesters to keep punters amused for a while. Chang draught amber is 65 baht, most lolly water goes off at 75 baht and liver wasters are 90 baht. Going to Excess: The Spicy Girls Too ogling den down in gender-confused Pattayaland Soi 1 changed hands in the early part of April and has since undergone a name change and minor refurbishment. Now called 2XS the place kicked off on 21 April with a soft opening. The new owners apparently have plans to turn the joint into a real eye-catcher. Certainly the name is well thought out, the signage outside is brilliant and ranks with the best in Fun Town. The front is bright and inviting and should draw potential patrons to the front curtains. Internally the changes have been fairly rudimentary, with the wet bar being widened and the lighting is now brighter. The music style has changed and is probably too loud, but it certainly had the dancers shuffling at the rate of knots, and they all seemed to be enjoying themselves immensely. I’m afraid the pricing policy with regard to the libations leaves me baffled. To celebrate their takeover the new owners increased the previous imposts, with Chang amber fluid, in a bottle, at 85 baht while liver wasters went up from 90 to 95 baht. Surely the aim of the management of any establishment is to garner a regular following as well as attract new customers. In order to have any chance in the competition with the Walking Street chrome pole palaces, the joints away from the centre of the action need to offer something different to draw booze artists through the portals. To use an analogy, New York residents know when they go to see a Broadway play they will pay top dollar for their seats while an off-Broadway production is discounted. In Pattaya no one is in any doubt that Walking Street is our Broadway; therefore the joints outside could be classified as off-Broadway. Ergo, they should be offering libations at a better rate than those of Walking Street. It’s not about being ‘cheap’, as one correspondent wrote me recently, claiming I was only interested in finding and promoting the lowest-priced boozers. It’s about value for money. One of the reasons munching dens such as Mata Hari (Second Road) and Chez Georges (Third Road), as examples, do so well is they offer excellent quality nosh in reasonable quantities combined with great service in a clean atmosphere at value for money prices. They’re not cheap, but by comparison with a number of places who think they’re further up the food chain and charge accordingly, it’s no surprise both Mata Hari and Chez Georges do a roaring trade. Therefore, getting back to comparing ogling dens, why would I, or any other sane person, want to spend 95 baht on a liver waster to look at not much more than a dozen average -albeit friendly- dancing maidens when I can pay exactly the same, or significantly less if I was an amber fluid imbiber, and ogle 40-plus of the more attractive (at least physically) chrome pole molesters in town in a place like Peppermint? If someone can give me a good reason why I should spend more to receive less then I’ll happily print their reasoned and logical argument. A Tale of Two Bars: Apropos of the above, I recently spent some time on a Friday evening in the Silver Star ogling den (Soi 8) and then the Planet Rock chrome pole palace (Pattayaland Soi 2). Both were pleasant experiences and in neither place were my friends or I pressured by either the dancing maidens or the serving wenches to purchase lady drinks. I’m not saying we weren’t asked, but when we declined there were no temper tantrums and stamping of feet. The difference was notable in drinks prices, amber fluid in Silver Star being knocked out at 65 baht compared with Planet Rock at 99 baht. Of all the Top Class Entertainment venues in Pattayaland Soi 2, I’ve always considered Planet Rock to be the most enjoyable. We were in around 12:30AM and the place was reasonably busy, but what struck me most was the friendliness and good-humour of the dancing girls and the bar staff. Mind you, we had the same treatment in Silver Star. Did we have a 52 percent better time in Planet Rock (based on the impost for amber fluid) than Silver Star? The answer, obviously, is no. Is this a reason not to visit Planet Rock? The answer, once again obviously, is no. We had a better value for money time in Silver Star, but I guarantee we’ll be back in both establishments again in the near future. My e-mail address is: nightmarch@hotmail.com Author of Pattaya "Patpong on steroids" No reproduction without specific reference to: nightmarch@hotmail.com

A Week is a Long Time in Politics: I think it was former British Prime Minister Harold Wilson who made the comment that ‘a week is long time in politics’. If he’d been an observer of the Pattaya bar scene no doubt he would have been moved to make a similar observation about the happenings in this neck of the woods. In my last humble missive I wrote about the sorry tale of a cluster of beer boozers fronting the Soi 8 part of the Prince Hotel. They had been boarded up and it looked as though the owners had been well and truly shafted. However, on Tuesday 30 March the boards did a Berlin Wall and came tumbling down and the boozers were back in business. According to an informant, the owners coughed up 150,000 baht each to restore their pride and joy to full working order. Whether this signals the end of the sad saga remains to be seen. Pyrite-digit: Seems as though yet another of Pattaya’s black holes has once more claimed another victim. The Goldfingers ogling den (Beach Road end of Soi 7) had valiantly battled its way through one of the worst low seasons on record in 2003 and seemed to be gathering a little bit of momentum in the struggle for the optic baht when the place had an unexpected visit from the local plod. The Honor Blackman look-alikes hugging the chrome poles were allegedly missing certain essential pieces of apparel when the peelers came bursting through the front door. Unaccustomed to the sight of such wanton displays of female flesh (unless it happens to be a topless foreign female aged between 25 and 70, weighing anywhere from 50 to 300 kilos, on Pattaya beach) the upholders of law and order ordered the immediate closure of the den to teach the management the folly of their wicked ways. I’ve since been told that the owners have had enough of the hassle of operating a chrome pole palace and decided to scuttle the operation. It’s the Singha, not the song: The only discounted libation in the Paris ogling den (Soi Diamond) is the price of bottled Singha amber nectar, at a reasonable 70 baht, and Louis L’Amour, the genial manager, has been running the place with a certain Gallic style for many years, building up a reasonable following and recruiting some attractive chrome pole huggers. Unfortunately, his dancing maidens and serving wenches have incurred the ire of at least one Fun Town regular who sent me an e-mail lamenting the hard-sell approach towards lady drinks. He claimed he’d only just been served his beer when a dancer who’d sidled up to him asked for a drink. A minute later a serving wench also raised the question. According to him, no less than six attempts were made to coax him into purchasing a lady drink. The girls then started calling him ‘keenio’ (the Thai word for Cheap Charlie; which I suspect is itself a phrase whose etymology stretches back to the Vietnam War), a standard put down if the little dears don’t get what they want. Of course, as any regular imbiber on the ogling den trail knows only too well, the Paris chrome pole palace and its employees are far from being unique in their push to flog lady drinks. Some dens are worse than others; the only place I’m aware of that openly forbids its employees to cadge for lady drinks is Spicy Girls (Pattayaland Soi 1). The push for lady drinks by the service girls on behalf of their dancing cousins is a great ploy that works well, especially on tourists and those who feel embarrassed using the word ‘No’. Most ex-pats and regulars find it annoying and the majority make the point they would probably buy more lady drinks if they didn’t feel they were being railroaded into it. From the bar owner’s point of view, lady drinks are part of the way he makes the girl earn her salary. The general requirement is around 30 lady drinks per month per dancer, although I hear tell that in some ogling dens the figure is up between 60 and 90. No wonder you can barely park your posterior on a seat before somebody is tugging at your elbow pestering for a drink. Ready for a Gold Star: The Silver Star ogling den (Soi 8) celebrated its first anniversary with a party on 31 March. I wandered in a couple of nights before and noted (a) the music was too loud and ( it was standard car alarm). So, after determining that the DJ was in charge of entertainment, I settled back to watch the chrome pole molesters, purely for sociological reasons. The den has around seven girls on stage at one time, and to my jaundiced eyes quite a few were very easy on the optic nerve. Libations were not outlandish at 70 baht for bottled Singha and 95 baht for liver wasters and lady drinks and the place had a vibrant, friendly atmosphere. On balance, apart from the dreadful loud music, it’s well worth a visit if you’re in the environs of Soi 8. Still the One: In recent times I know I’ve been getting a little snappy about some of the lesser-lights in the ogling den trade, so to end on a brighter note I’ll just use one word: Peppermint. I am not alone in considering this chrome pole palace in Walking Street to be the number one joint in town at present. I wandered in late on an average Thursday evening with a group of salubrious individuals and we were lucky to find a seat. I would think only Living Dolls Showcase, Super Baby and possibly (un)-Happy, would have had as many punters propping up bar stools and bench seats. The den simply has it all: wall-to-wall dancing pulchritude, house liver wasters at the industry standard of 95 baht, cheap amber draught for 45 baht all night for those keen to expand their waistline, lady drinks at 85 baht and a friendly atmosphere. Of course, some of the dancing damsels (so I’m led to believe) think their pubes are dipped in gold and ask for silly money from tumescent revellers, but a little bit of horse-trading can see you emerge with more than a smile on your dial. Out of the Bunker and into the Sand Pit: The well-known Mr Loy, the co-ordinator of the Bunker Boys (Pattaya Golf Society), has joined forces with the Denis The Menace-run OK Corral (Soi Skaw Beach) after a six-year stint at The Bunker in Soi Chaiyapoon. My golf handicap is simple: with a club in my mitts I look like the result of a mating between Mr Bean and a pogo stick. I heartily agree with Mark Twain’s comment that ‘golf is a good walk spoiled’. However, the Bunker Boys are out every Tuesday and Thursday to nearby courses with a free bus leaving outside the OK Corral at 10:00AM (that’s in the morning; another good reason for me not to play). After an exhausting day of caddy shacking and putting little white balls, it’s back for the presentations at 6:30PM. G’day Mate, again: I had a few inquiries asking about the e-mail address for Mick Distler, the former owner-operator of the now defunct Playpen ogling den (Soi Yamato) who has set up shop in the Cambodian version of Pattaya-by-the-sea: Sihanoukville (or Kompong Som). I made a mistake when transcribing the e-mail address and a person answering to the name Mick Distler, living as a Biblical scholar in a born-again Christian commune in Flagellation, Ohio has no doubt been confused by the flood of messages asking about the behind-the-bedroom-door tomfoolery available in sunny Sihanoukville. So, for those of you who’d like to contact the irreligious Mick, he can be reached at the following e-mail: gdaymatebar@hotmail.com nightmarch@hotmail.com

Hammer See my answer on the PattayaPics forum. Pete

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Cue the Mexican Standoff: For anyone who has wandered into the depths of Soi 8 in recent weeks the saga surrounding the closure and boarding up of the majority of beer boozers fronting the Prince Hotel is the stuff of thriller novels. Trying to unravel the intricate truth from the shame-faced fiction and the usual plethora of rumours is no easy task. So what follows may not be entirely correct. It’s my understanding that the Prince Hotel had been in the hands of a Thai bank for quite some time and they recently off-loaded this little piece of Pattaya black hole to a very prominent and wealthy local business identity at a knockdown impost. Included in the sale, of course, was control of the beer boozers both inside and alongside the premises. The new owner dispatched his minions to chat with the lessees of these boozers, showed them the documents proving the sale of the building and stated all monthly rentals should now be handed over to him and no one else. So far, so good. However, for the past few years the Prince Hotel has been occupied- allegedly illegally- by a somewhat shadowy figure whose favourite bedtime reading might well have been the trilogy written by Mario Puzo, later made into a series of movies starring a rotund Marlon Brando. This latter-day Don Vito Corleone has managed to operate and profit with impunity, selling leases and organising business associated with the Prince Hotel. So, after hearing about the sale of his squatter’s residence, far from being nonplussed, he determined to flex his muscle and demanded the booze bar owners continue to fork out their monthly rental to his lackeys. Those who stated they had already paid their rent- to the legal landlord- were forced out of their boozers (allegedly at gunpoint) and the entire area boarded up. The whole murky tale is a long way from its end, and although there are notices claiming the boozers are under renovation, all that looks to be happening at present is a lot of concrete is being knocked around. The bars do not look likely to be re-opened in the foreseeable future. Of course, the real losers in this sorry fable are the booze bar operators who have been caught between the proverbial rock and a hard place. Yet one more example of how to lose your shirt in Fun Town. *Note: Since the above was written, the bars (as of Tuesday 30 March) have re-opened for business after the owners, so I’m told, coughed up 150,000 baht each to have the boards taken down. Somebody call Greenpeace: If anybody wants to see a prime example of the gap between the haves and the have-nots in the ogling den caper, then a wander down a so like Post Office any night after 7:00PM should suffice. It’s no secret the majority of chrome pole palaces on and around Walking Street, since its resurgence in the last two to three years, have snaffled up the best talent in town. Therefore, it is unfair to compare the dens located outside the area with their Walking Street cousins. Nevertheless, it’s not unfair to compare what you are likely to receive for your ogling baht in the establishments located away from the heart of Fun Town. One example is the Far East Rock ogling den (Soi Post Office), which has one of the best-designed signs of the genre in Pattaya and offers libations from a reasonable 55 baht. It started life as Porky’s and judging by the damsels who were molesting the chrome poles when I wandered in a few Sunday’s past, it should perhaps return to its original cognomen. I am well aware there are persons of the male gender living and visiting Pattaya who don’t mind if a dancing maiden is carrying a few extra hundred kilos around the girth or is old enough to remember the day US President John Kennedy was assassinated. However, when these damsels insist on divesting themselves of the little apparel with which they are attired I for one find it difficult to keep thoughts of being French-kissed by an octogenarian nursing home resident out of my tiny mind. I’m certain they’re not all suffering from some glandular or thyroid malfunction. I know the ogling dens away from Walking Street find it difficult to recruit dancers and management tends to adopt a ‘beggars can’t be choosers’ stance, but staring at the pubic regions of a matronly woman with stretch marks resembling a piece of used sandpaper is not my idea of entertainment. Another den, this time All Girls (Pattayaland Soi 2), might offer draught amber at a reasonable 59 baht all night but it too had a clutch of dancers who looked as though they’d been mentioned in more than a few despatches, although thankfully they kept their upper and nether regions covered. Admittedly there were a couple of damsels who were easy on the eye but with lady drinks at a ridiculous 119 baht (compared to say a 95 baht lady drink for chrome pole molesters in a place like Super Baby) allied with cajoling waitresses, I wasn’t interested in discussing the problems of rice paddy irrigation and subsistence farming in Nakhon Noname. A change of name to All Ghouls and a theme associated with such a cognomen might just interest the average wandering tourist and local ex-pat. Whereas the music in Far East Rock wasn’t too bad, the noise emanating from the speakers in All Girls merely confirmed the commonly held belief that Thai DJ’s are completely tone deaf. No offence to the management or ownership of Far East Rock or All Girls, I’m merely using them as an example. If I may be so bold as to suggest to a number of off-Walking Street dens that they think about attiring their dancers in costumes more suitable to the age and size of their chrome pole molesting employee and therefore perhaps more alluring to the potential imbiber. And I don’t mean those awful wrap-around skirts that look as though they were last used as kitchen curtains. The only people who find them attractive think wearing white socks and sandals are the height of summer fashion. Just short of a ton: Big Andy, the operator of the Club Electric Blue ogling den (Walking Street) has announced that all libations in his establishment will be 99 baht for the foreseeable future. Heineken draught amber will be on special at two for 99 baht, lady drinks will be 99 baht. Happy hour will run from 8:00PM until 9:00PM with all drinks at 35 baht, including draught. Good Thai grub: One of the longest running Thai nosheries in Fun Town was Panya’s Kitchen in Soi 6/1. When all the boozers and buildings were knocked down in that soi last year, Panya was forced to relocate. She has resurfaced on the corner of Soi 19 and Third Road and is still serving what I consider to be the best chicken and cashew nuts dish in town, at 80 baht. Her nosh house is open from 11:00AM until 1:00AM (although her menu mistakenly reads ‘1:00PM’) and western food is also available. Tales from the Crib: A Thai lady friend of mine who has lived in Australia for many years told me about a friend of hers who resides in Bangkok. This damsel is very much a kept woman. She is the mia noi of a wealthy Bangkok businessman, receiving 200,000 baht a month from him as her stipend. She is also seeing a doctor who coughs up another 70,000 baht a month. I suppose it’s no surprise that she has purchased a number of properties in Bangkok and in her home province. My e-mail address is: nightmarch@hotmail.com Author of Pattaya "Patpong on steroids" No reproduction without specific reference to: nightmarch@hotmail.com

Thanks for letting me know Howard. It's now fixed.

Your system is obviously accepting the cookie, or you would not be able to post here. Something is deleting it when you log off. You may have some anti-spyware or other utility that is doing this for you. You need to find which program is doing it and then configure it to keep the pattayapages.com cookie. Or if that is to hard, you'll just have to log in each time you come back.

Let me know if it happens again. When a PM is sent, you should get a pop up about it, as well as the new message thing on every page.

I never received an email from you about this! I have now changed the email address for the Blackhawke-Driver account to the same one you used to register turbota. If you log off now, then click on log in and then forgotten password, the password will be emailed to you.

Hi all Moved to a new server this evening but same isp. Hopefully things shoul;d be OK now but it needs to be watched a little longer. Anyway, I am on the case.

If you want the flag of the country you live in to be displayed with your posts, do the following. 1) Click on My Controls (at the top of every page) 2) Click on Edit Profile Info 3) In the drop down box, next to Country, choose your country. 4) Scroll down and click on Amend My Profile

E-members have the Enhanced cache detection option turned on to disallow server cacheing of the index pages. It helps to avoid PHP pages being cached by incorrectly set up ISPs. Flags are available now. See post in the Members Bar. I'll think about the Pattaya clock. This forum works off GMT and allows members to select an off-set, thus showing local time on post information. I could set up a Pattaya clock if I thought it would be useful. I don't understand the question about headlines.