Airbus and Boeing products running behind schedule

[TheFiend 1,181]

Only about a week or so to go, if that long, and the flight testing for the 787 will be finished. The flight testing for the new 747-8 concluded a week ago. At the current rate they have been flying the 787 test fleet, it could be completed by the end of this coming week. Then they file the paper work with the FAA and wait for their approval.

 

At the end of the day it was a date related publicity stunt....

[BigDUSA 71]

At the end of the day it was a date related publicity stunt....

 

Nothing wrong with good publicity. Way better then all the publicity Airbus received when the Rolls Royce engine exploded on the A380.

[MM 6,562]

You guys will have to carry on this ridiculous topic without BigD, but rest assured, he will be able to read it.

[eltib 54]

You guys will have to carry on this ridiculous topic without BigD, but rest assured, he will be able to read it.

 

 

Do I take it you're sending him to purgatory again?

[MM 6,562]

Do I take it you're sending him to purgatory again?

No. He's not allowed to post on the board at all.

[TheFiend 1,181]

No. He's not allowed to post on the board at all.

 

Oh dear....

[Samsonite 181]

Publicity stunt as the 787 hasn't passed certification yet..... and surprise, surprise it happened on 7th day of the 8th month...

Flight testing concluded on Saturday, 13 August 2011. The paper work will be submitted to the FAA Monday morning.

[Greg_B 306]

No. He's not allowed to post on the board at all.

[rogero 4]

No. He's not allowed to post on the board at all.

 

Oh dear what a shame.

 

Does that mean we will not be subject to his cut & paste comments about the aviation industry.

He tried to pass off other peoples well researched opinions as his own until he was challenged on it

and reluctantly put a little "quote" at the end but anyone who reads bigD would know immediately it was not

his own work as his own postings are littered with spelling mistakes (surely not Cambridge induced !)

 

cheers rogero :beer

[Samsonite 181]

Boeing 787 Testing has officially been completed.

 

 

"Boeing 787 Dreamliner finishes certification testing.

 

When a Boeing flight test team boarded the 9th 787 Dreamliner last Saturday, they knew they were likely making history. If everything went according to planned, they would complete the last tests required to certify the all-new airplane..."

 

 

The rest of the story and a video at this link: http://www.boeing.com/Features/2011/08/bca_certification_finish_08_16_11.html

Edited August 18, 2011 by Samsonite

[Samsonite 181]

"DATE:26/08/11

SOURCE:Air Transport Intelligence news

 

787 wins certification from FAA and EASA

By Ghim-Lay Yeo

 

Boeing has received certification for the Boeing 787 Dreamliner from the US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) and the European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA), ahead of first delivery in a month's time.

 

The FAA presented the type certificate and an amended production certificate that now includes the 787 to Boeing today at a ceremony at the airframer's Everett facility in Washington. Boeing also received the European type certificate from EASA.

 

"Certification is a milestone that validates what we have promised the world since we started talking about this airplane. This airplane embodies the hopes and dreams of everyone fortunate enough to work on it. Their dreams are now coming true," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes president and CEO Jim Albaugh.

 

Boeing will deliver the 787 to launch operator All Nippon Airways on 26 September, with a flight taking off from Everett on 27 September and arriving in Tokyo on 28 September.

 

Boeing initially applied to the FAA for certification of the 787 on 28 March 2003, and launched the programme in April 2004.

 

The aircraft made its first flight on 15 December 2009. FAA flight test crews have flown about 25% of the 4,645 flight hours accumulated by the six flight test aircraft since then, said the agency. FAA technical experts who were involved in the type certification have logged more than 200,000 hours."

[wacmedia 277]

The Boeing 787 Dreamliner is expected to make its first flight in August of 2007 with delivery starting in 2008.

 

Boeing will deliver the 787 to launch operator All Nippon Airways on 26 September, with a flight taking off from Everett on 27 September and arriving in Tokyo on 28 September.

 

 

Hi,

 

A bit behind BigD's schedule.

[wacmedia 277]

Hi,

 

As a European gentleman I think it's only fair to make this post.

Boeing to deliver first 787 Dreamliner

 

US planemaker Boeing will officially deliver its first 787 Dreamliner to Japan's All Nippon Airways (ANA) later, after three years of delays.

 

The Dreamliner had originally been scheduled for delivery in 2008, but Boeing has suffered a string of setbacks, the latest being an onboard fire during test flights in January.

 

But the problems with the Dreamliner have damaged Boeing's reputation, and the company will hope a successful launch will help put to bed some of the memories of the delays it suffered.

[toss3r 7]

The Lockheed Stratoliner concept is a hydrogen-powered jet that can fly anywhere on Earth without stopping.

The bar-tailed Godwit holds the world record for how far a bird can fly without stopping to feed - one of the Australian birds flew to Alaska without stopping to feed, flying for an astonishing 7,256 miles.

So designer William Black took the bird's wings as his inspiration for a 'zero-emission' jet - the Lockheed Stratoliner concept - which would use bird-like wings for extended lift on high-altitude flights.

His idea was a jet that could fly anywhere on Earth - emitting no pollution whatsoever.

The idea is still some way off, however. Hydrogen-powered flight has only been demonstrated a few times - and then only in small aircraft.

Black's concept was meant to illustrate the potential of a zero-emission aircraft that could fly anywhere on Earth - using extreme aerodynamic lift to reach altitudes where the air would offer less resistance and it could glide like a bird.

The designer's page on Yanko Design says, 'Oversized wings generate large amounts of lift and permit flight at higher altitudes.'

'Four Cryogenic Hydrogen Turbofan engines power flight with zero emissions and can operate in a low-power state similar to that of fighter jets, saving a substantial amount of fuel.'

 

Cryogenic Hydrogen Turbofan engines are, likewise, some way from emerging into the real world. But the concept is beautiful.

 

 

 

 

http://www.dailymail...l#ixzz1ZOsaPDFd

[wacmedia 277]

Hi,

 

Back to reality!

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15300225

 

New £400m Airbus plant 'secures 6,000 jobs' in Flintshire

 

A new £400m plant making carbon-fibre wings for Airbus' new A350 airliner will secure 6,000 jobs in Flintshire, the company says.

 

About 650 workers will be based at the North Factory, Broughton, where carbon-fibre wings for the new A350 airliner will be made.

 

Airbus says it means job security for all staff at Broughton, the UK's largest single manufacturing site

[TheFiend 1,181]

Interesting that the Boeing fanboys have been very quiet about the recent 7LATE7 cancellations that have taken the order total below the 800 mark...

[jacko 8,813]

Interesting that the Boeing fanboys have been very quiet about the recent 7LATE7 cancellations that have taken the order total below the 800 mark...

Well the main one and OP have been blocked!

Although he has popped in for a read now and again.

[TheFiend 1,181]

Well the main one and OP have been blocked!

Although he has popped in for a read now and again.

 

There is still Samsonite and MrMango left in the Boeing Fanboy Club.... they've gone very quiet

[MrMango 667]

There is still Samsonite and MrMango left in the Boeing Fanboy Club.... they've gone very quiet

I have no dog in this hunt. if you think that rebutting biased posts as partisan, then you need a reality check...

[Samsonite 181]

I have no dog in this hunt. if you think that rebutting biased posts as partisan, then you need a reality check...

Bingo!

As usual "they" don't tell the complete story. For example, the Chinese canceled their 787 order, but turned right

around and ordered an "equal Dollar amount" of 737s. No loss for Boeing. One also has to consider the political

fall out from the F-16 deal with Taiwan.

Those who canceled their orders will later regret it as everything points to the plane, while late, living up to the hype. The Rolls Royce people are especially bullish on the capabilities of 787 and how it is going to effect the industry.

[TheFiend 1,181]

Bingo!

As usual "they" don't tell the complete story. For example, the Chinese canceled their 787 order, but turned right

around and ordered an "equal Dollar amount" of 737s. No loss for Boeing. One also has to consider the political

fall out from the F-16 deal with Taiwan.

Those who canceled their orders will later regret it as everything points to the plane, while late, living up to the hype. The Rolls Royce people are especially bullish on the capabilities of 787 and how it is going to effect the industry.

 

Was just remarking how quick Boeing fanboys are quick to post about good news about the 787, but very rarely make the first comment about the bad news.

 

No "overall" loss for Boeing, but it is another small dent in the 7LATE7 program.

 

It is noticeable that since BigD was gimp-masked this topic has been dying a slow death. Perhaps now, after 117 pages, it is time to let it die a death

Edited October 26, 2011 by TheFiend

[Samsonite 181]

Was just remarking how quick Boeing fanboys are quick to post about good news about the 787, but very rarely make the first comment about the bad news../

No need to post the bad news about Boeing as you are quick to do it for us, and you are doing a bang up job of it, by the way.

:)

Haven't heard you say much, if anything, about the A350 program.

[TheFiend 1,181]

No need to post the bad news about Boeing as you are quick to do it for us, and you are doing a bang up job of it, by the way.

:)

Haven't heard you say much, if anything, about the A350 program.

 

[Samsonite 181]

"Bernstein predicts more A350 delays

 

By Geoffrey Thomas | November 21, 2011

 

 

New York-based Bernstein Research said Airbus may experience more A350 delays.

 

In a client report, Bernstein said the Emirates order for 50 Boeing 777s at Dubai highlights concern about the A350 schedule (ATW Daily News, Nov. 15).

 

“The A350 situation at Airbus looks increasingly challenging, particularly after Emirates elected to order delivery of 777s spread over 2015-20,” the report said. “Based on our airline discussions in Dubai, we believe that A350 delays could extend beyond the current schedule, with the need for substantial weight reduction.”

 

Bernstein has pushed back its forecast of the A350-900 first delivery by six monthsto mid 2015.

 

Earlier this month, EADS announced a six-month delay in the A350-900 to mid 2014 – a year earlier than Bernstein’s new forecast (ATW Daily News, Nov. 11). Previously, Bernstein had Airbus delivering eight A350s in 2014 and 50 in 2015 (ATW Daily News, Aug. 23, 2010). It noted the 777 appears to be benefiting from concerns about the A350 availability and ultimate performance.

 

“The 777 has performed very well for airlines in the region with high dispatch reliability. With uncertainty about the A350, the 777 orders also act as an insurance policy for airlines against A350 delays (much as A330 orders did for the 787).”

 

Bernstein added that “the positive experience with the 777 also makes it a low-risk option compared to an all-new aircraft.”"

 

http://atwonline.com/aircraft-engines-components/news/bernstein-predicts-more-a350-delays-1118

[BigDUSA 71]

Singapore Airlines says it repaired wing cracks in 2 Airbus A38

 

 

SINGAPORE (AP) -- "Singapore Airlines says it has repaired cracks on the wings of two Airbus A380 jets and the planes are safe to fly.

The carrier said in a statement Friday during the second half of last year it found cracks on "a small number of wing rib feet," which connect the rib of the wing to its skin.

 

France's Airbus said Thursday that it had recommended to airlines that fly the A380 to check for cracks, though they did not pose a safety risk. Australia's Qantas Airways said Friday that it also found cracks in one of its 10 A380s.

Singapore Airlines was the world's first carrier to fly the A380 in 2007 and has 14 of them in its fleet.

Edited January 7, 2012 by BigDUSA