Malaysian Air Flight 370 is missing (Boeing 777-200)

[Fatboyfat]

They were flying from KL.

Just guessing, but possibly cheaper to get to KL from Phuket than it would be to get to Swampy, or the lax passport control in KL was common knowledge ?

 

I still feel that too much emphasis is being put on these false id travellers. From these events I would suggest it is a regular occurence, for even such low key crimes as "extended overstay".

Malaysian Air would be quite happy to detract any supposition that their aircraft or maintenance crews were at fault for as long as possible.

[CheshireTom]

Just guessing, but possibly cheaper to get to KL from Phuket than it would be to get to Swampy, or the lax passport control in KL was common knowledge ?

 

I still feel that too much emphasis is being put on these false id travellers. From these events I would suggest it is a regular occurence, for even such low key crimes as "extended overstay".

Malaysian Air would be quite happy to detract any supposition that their aircraft or maintenance crews were at fault for as long as possible.

 

From what I've read, the two guys arrived in KL from Tehran on 28 Feb, and then bought the two stolen passports in KL. It's amazing that they haven't found anything ... the "abducted by aliens" theory is gaining credibility by the day.

 

Edit: Just read the report that says at least one of the two travelled from Phuket.

Edited March 11, 2014 by CheshireTom

[Sailfast]

People still fail to comprehend how hard it is to find debris, even something larger than a shipping container on he open ocean. The very nature I the sea surface, even in benign conditions from above makes it hard to spot objects. This combined wih the fact ost debris floats at or just under the surface, not on top like a boat, makes it even more difficult.

 

 

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[wacmedia]

Hi,

 

The Iranian guys seem to be economic refugees rather than terrorists. RIP to all who died in this tragic event.

[Fatboyfat]

People still fail to comprehend how hard it is to find debris, even something larger than a shipping container on he open ocean. The very nature I the sea surface, even in benign conditions from above makes it hard to spot objects. This combined wih the fact ost debris floats at or just under the surface, not on top like a boat, makes it even more difficult.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Having been involved in several searches over the years I totally agree; but I am finding the fact that no EPIRB ( or whatever the aircraft version of it is called) signals are being picked up, a bit hard to comprehend. They must be fitted, probably with both water and impact activated models.

Edited March 11, 2014 by Fatboyfat

[nkped]

Having been involved in several searches over the years I totally agree; but I am finding the fact that no EPIRB ( or whatever the aircraft version of it is called) signals are being picked up, a bit hard to comprehend. They must be fitted, probably with both water and impact activated models.

BBC was saying the Malaysian military thinks they tracked it flying across the peninsula and over the Straits of Malacca.

Edited March 11, 2014 by nkped

[Trvlr]

 

From what I've read, the two guys arrived in KL from Tehran on 28 Feb, and then bought the two stolen passports in KL. It's amazing that they haven't found anything ... the "abducted by aliens" theory is gaining credibility by the day.

 

Edit: Just read the report that says at least one of the two travelled from Phuket.

 

The tickets were bought at a travel agency called Six Star in Pattaya, according to a Bloomberg report.

Both passports were stolen in Phuket.

[js007]

Slightly off topic, but if the two travelers with the stolen passports arrived from Iran, presumably with Iranian passports, why would they need to travel with "stolen" passports? Doers that make any sense?

[wacmedia]

Slightly off topic, but if the two travelers with the stolen passports arrived from Iran, presumably with Iranian passports, why would they need to travel with "stolen" passports? Doers that make any sense?

Hi,

 

Bond, the two Iranian guys is a diversion. You will have to dig deeper to see what this is all about. It has nothing to do with those two guys. I'm sure of that.

[js007]

Hi,

 

Bond, the two Iranian guys is a diversion. You will have to dig deeper to see what this is all about. It has nothing to do with those two guys. I'm sure of that.

 

That may well be the case, but still, why would the two need stolen passports?

[nkped]

That may well be the case, but still, why would the two need stolen passports?

 

The traditional reason would be that Iranians need visas to get on a plane for Europe and the two guys didn't have those visas. EU passports could solve that problem.

[js007]

The traditional reason would be that Iranians need visas to get on a plane for Europe and the two guys didn't have those visas. EU passports could solve that problem.

 

That makes sense. It still seems like a lot of trouble, though.

[TheFiend]

People are too quick to jump to conclusions and blame terrorists for things like this. Until they find debris and carry out forensic test then the cause will remain a mystery.

[jacko]

Slightly off topic, but if the two travelers with the stolen passports arrived from Iran, presumably with Iranian passports, why would they need to travel with "stolen" passports? Doers that make any sense?

To get into Europe.

That makes sense. It still seems like a lot of trouble, though.

With Iranian passport they would not be allowed to board and fly to China without visas. Edited March 12, 2014 by jacko

[Sailfast]

Having been involved in several searches over the years I totally agree; but I am finding the fact that no EPIRB ( or whatever the aircraft version of it is called) signals are being picked up, a bit hard to comprehend. They must be fitted, probably with both water and impact activated models.

Then you understand (probably better than me) that it's rarely a single event, but a chain of unfortunate events that cause mysteries like this. Sometimes happening very quickly.

 

My guess is electrical fire, then catastrophic failure. Could an EPIRB survive? Maybe, maybe not. But sadly, there are so many possibilities...

[bigmick]

I found this on the net.

[Obsession]

Co pilot was lax regarding security.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/12/missing-malaysia-airlines-jet-mh370-pilot-fariq-abdul-hamid-entertained-women-in-cockpit-in-2011-flight-4539262/

[Fatboyfat]

Co pilot was lax regarding security.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/03/12/missing-malaysia-airlines-jet-mh370-pilot-fariq-abdul-hamid-entertained-women-in-cockpit-in-2011-flight-4539262/

Call me over-cynical but every one of those photos look photo-shopped to me; and the whole article stinks, but is probably typical of that type of Ozzie reporting, which makes the UK tabloid shite actually look responsible. At its very very best it is just a piece of gossip in appalling poor taste, especially to grieving family, about a guy who has almost certainly just died.

BTW rant is not directed at the poster, rather the scum set up in the link.

[midlifecrisis]

I found this on the net.

it's made the news:

 

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/12/oil-rig-worker-says-he-saw-missing-plane-go-down-r/#.UyCk150m6gw.twitter

[midlifecrisis]

Call me over-cynical but every one of those photos look photo-shopped to me; and the whole article stinks, but is probably typical of that type of Ozzie reporting, which makes the UK tabloid shite actually look responsible. At its very very best it is just a piece of gossip in appalling poor taste, especially to grieving family, about a guy who has almost certainly just died.

BTW rant is not directed at the poster, rather the scum set up in the link.

CBS news is reporting this also.

 

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/malaysia-airlines-probing-report-2-women-visited-pilot-in-cockpit-in-2011/

[Obsession]

Call me over-cynical but every one of those photos look photo-shopped to me; and the whole article stinks, but is probably typical of that type of Ozzie reporting, which makes the UK tabloid shite actually look responsible. At its very very best it is just a piece of gossip in appalling poor taste, especially to grieving family, about a guy who has almost certainly just died.

BTW rant is not directed at the poster, rather the scum set up in the link.

 

It reminded me of a case where the driver of a security van, used to open the bullet proof vans door, to have a cigarette. It was noticed, and a robbery was planned to take him out by sniper, and drive the van away. They got away with around $1 million. Lax security information gets around.

I realize it's not directed at me. But is there a precedent for photoshopping in incidents like that?

[Fatboyfat]

I realize it's not directed at me. But is there a precedent for photoshopping in incidents like that?

 

Fraudulently, to gain both recompense and notriety ....Yes. Very often involving bimbos trying to get a pay off from people not wanting adverse publicity. "Most" media organs would leave well alone. The CBS article at least reports the almost total uncorroboration of any of the facts or players.

[nkped]

Now it's getting really weird. The Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=WSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html%3Fmod%3DWSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories is now reporting that rather vague U.S. sources think there is the possibility the plane flew for another four hours after the last contact with controllers. I won't attempt to paraphrase the basis for that. They even float the possibility the plane was "diverted."

[wacmedia]

Now it's getting really weird. The Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=WSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html%3Fmod%3DWSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories is now reporting that rather vague U.S. sources think there is the possibility the plane flew for another four hours after the last contact with controllers. I won't attempt to paraphrase the basis for that. They even float the possibility the plane was "diverted."

 

Hi,

 

Some are suggesting it was a 9/11 situation as regards the transponders.

[js007]

Now it's getting really weird. The Wall Street Journal http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282?mod=WSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories&mg=reno64-wsj&url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB10001424052702304914904579434653903086282.html%3Fmod%3DWSJAsia_hpp_LEFTTopStories is now reporting that rather vague U.S. sources think there is the possibility the plane flew for another four hours after the last contact with controllers. I won't attempt to paraphrase the basis for that. They even float the possibility the plane was "diverted."

 

Maybe they wanted to steal the plane? Would there be a market for a stolen 777?

Edited March 13, 2014 by js007