BF from Walking street Go Go probably broke my safety box and steals TB 100000 + + a couple of days back

[MM 6,562]

You might have missed it but this is an opinion forum. My opinion it's CRAZY to keep large sums of cash in a cheap ass hotel safe. Your opinion is somewhat different. OK by me. No need to engage in personal abuse. Lame on your part. BTW, I've well over 40 trips to Pattaya since 1999 and I've got the passport visa stamps to prove I've been in country.

 

I gave my opinion on the subject as well as on the credibility and basis of your opinion. And, of course, all personal abuse was struck out and modified as shown.

 

Regarding the topic, I hope egget does get some resolution on this, but I doubt anything will come of it unless her fingerprints are on the safe.

 

I'm still inclined to suspect the hotel or a balcony burglary. Someone might take small, valuable items (cash and harddrive), and leave the larger items as being too heavy or bulky carry out. Just because they broke into an empty room, doesn't mean they might not have been in a hurry to get out without being discovered.

[pfotoguy 3]

Unless you checked the safe upon entry into your room it's hard to say when you were robbed.

 

could have been before you brought the girl back to your room.

[egget 0]

I gave my opinion on the subject as well as on the credibility and basis of your opinion. And, of course, all personal abuse was struck out and modified as shown.

 

Regarding the topic, I hope egget does get some resolution on this, but I doubt anything will come of it unless her fingerprints are on the safe.

 

I'm still inclined to suspect the hotel or a balcony burglary. Someone might take small, valuable items (cash and harddrive), and leave the larger items as being too heavy or bulky carry out. Just because they broke into an empty room, doesn't mean they might not have been in a hurry to get out without being discovered.

 

I agree, if her fingerprint is not on the safe it will not be a court case. I have a feeling however that the bar decided to cut this girl from their staff the moment they realized that the police wanted to send fingerprint samples to Bangkok. Her two representatives (one of them probably mamasan) got pretty long faced when they heard that. I also have a feeling that someone in the Pattaya police know exactly what have happened here, and they know how to deal with it. This girl will probably have to find her work on beach road or the discos in the future.

 

The chances for me to get my money back, very very slim I think. But a voluble lesson learned.

 

I haven’t gone to her bar to see if she still is there, and I don’t think I want to. I will go there next trip.

[lovedog100 1,372]

lmao, dont shoot the messenger doglove100, good to hear you consider fellow forum members to be dip shits, maybe the reverse will happen and these "dip shits" will stop putting excessive amounts of valuables in these poor excuses for safes.

I agree with not putting big money in a hotel safe. The BM's that show their barfine for the night, pics of themselves that are posted online, are dip shits. So would anyone that showed the youtube vid to a bar girl.

[volsfan 43]

Given the ego of the OP, i wonder if maybe he said or did something on the first visit to make the girl realize that there was a windfall waiting for her if she could get the safe open. He does not seem like the type that would shy away from telling her how well off he is. Just sayin! If she she did it, she had to have had some idea that it was worth the risk.

[spike 236]

i have just tried to open my safe with the you tube method i could not

 

make sure you're not using a baked potato

[Yzi 72]

You might have missed it but this is an opinion forum. My opinion it's CRAZY to keep large sums of cash in a cheap ass hotel safe. Your opinion is somewhat different. OK by me. No need to engage in personal abuse. Lame on your part. BTW, I've well over 40 trips to Pattaya since 1999 and I've got the passport visa stamps to prove I've been in country.

 

Again, the hotel in question has not been mentioned yet, so, how the fuck can you say it's cheap ass + calling an other hotel cheap ass while claiming skytops to be good value for bath is just insane!

 

No one is going to bite your "one time offer" to see your passports, i think no one really cares

[nam-thip 1]

An interesting read about hotel safes.

 

http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters/2009/12/ho...om-safe-thefts/

[Fondles 94]

An interesting read about hotel safes.

 

http://bobarno.com/thiefhunters/2009/12/ho...om-safe-thefts/

 

Nice story, but for what its worth safes are easy to crack, even moreso when they are not bolted down..................

[jacko 8,822]

make sure you're not using a baked potato

He should just keep chipping away at it until it is mashed.

[samfreeland 64]

only 600 baht for a safe cracking bar girl it sounds to good to believe . probably an inside job. bad luck.

Edited December 26, 2010 by samfreeland

[spike 236]

He should just keep chipping away at it until it is mashed.

 

[lichtsy 18]

Okay guy's for the people without Thai bank accounts (2 Week millionaires) and the people who keep there bank books, small laptops, I pods, portable hardrives and passports in there what is your suggestion then? carry all this stuff around? maybe you are right about the safes but what alternative is there? I would like to hear some PRACTICAL suggestions

Edited December 26, 2010 by lichtsy

[tomcat76 327]

Your work is sensitive and you trust it to a Payatta room safe? 'Can't be THAT sensitive - your training is shiite....

 

Your work is not that sensitive, but you put a whole lot of valuable stuff in your in-room safe? How in the world did you manage to accumulate all that valuable stuff?

 

 

Decide what you can afford to lose, and bring that with you. It's easy. People who don't know how to travel WILL eventually get ripped off. (Yeah, it's a brutal truth. LOS. US. Anywhere.)

Edited December 26, 2010 by tomcat76

[9cisco999 107]

I recon that it was Miss Scarlett with the potato on the balcony.

 

Have I won????

 

 

 

Based on that video, I'm thinking a well directed fart will pop the sucker open.

 

 

But I still think you won blacknight.

Edited December 26, 2010 by 9cisco999

[Tatanka 1]

I am not good locking by the way,

 

LOL

 

 

It's CRAZY to keep very large sums of cash money in a cheap ass hotel safe. CRAZY.

 

Agree

 

 

...... or open a Thai bank account.

 

That's the way to do it

 

 

 

IMHO the OP has no hesitation telling anyone on a public board how well he's doing.

I bet he told a lot of hotel staff and bargirls the same.

I see it as your own fault, another lesson learned, don't bragg about the things you own/have, put your money in the bank.

[lovedog100 1,372]

Okay guy's for the people without Thai bank accounts (2 Week millionaires) and the people who keep there bank books, small laptops, I pods, portable hardrives and passports in there what is your suggestion then? carry all this stuff around? maybe you are right about the safes but what alternative is there? I would like to hear some PRACTICAL suggestions

There are many different things that you can do to protect your self. ATM's can be used all over the world. Thai's charge a 150 baht international charge to use them, so I withdraw the max amount each time I use them. You might want to let your bank know you are going on holiday, and see if they can up the daily rate each day. Most Thai ATM's themselves will only give 20,000 baht at a time. Put 10,000 in your pocket, and 10,000 in the hotel safe. Credit cards will work in ATM's as well, and many places will do point of sell with credit cards. Defiantly let your card company know you are going to Thailand. Many people get here and find their credit cards frozen by the bank because charges started to come in from Thailand. The bank will call your contact number to see if the charges are authorized, but because you are not there to take the call, they put a freeze on the card.

 

Travelers checks are OK, and will be replaced if lost or stolen. American Express are the easiest to cash because they are the best known. You will also get a better exchange rate with travelers checks. No need for any domination under $100 You will also need your passport on you to cash them.

 

Many hotels have behind the desk Safes. There are many different kinds, and ways you use them. Check to see if they have a behind the desk safe, how it works, and if it feels safe to you. Some are not a good system. Some are great. I like lockers where I supply my own lock and key.

 

I have used those key lock boxes before. There are two types. One like the real estate people use, it locks over the door handle, and takes a code to open. I like those best, but they may be harder to find available at home. I got mine from a friend in real estate. I put some glue on the door handle screws just in case someone has a screwdriver with them. It's easy to take off the whole door handle, and walk away with the whole lock box otherwise. Easier to find at home is the lock box for keys that screw down. Of course you have to have 4 screws in it to use, and you have to have a screw driver in your luggage. I've screwed them behind the head board of the bed, and in the closet (wardrobe) behind my clothes. You have to remember to take it with you when you check out. One time I checked out and was sitting at the bus station when I remembered I had left it. I had to go back to the hotel, get them to let me back in, and then pay them a few hundred baht for the screw holes I left. The key lock boxes are made to hold a key or two, so they aren't big. I have put 10 $100 bills and a couple of credit cards in them with no problem.

 

There are private safety boxes for rent in Pattaya, and BKK. I'm not sure about the rest of Thailand. For a small rental fee, you can rent a safety deposit box. Not as secure as a bank, but better than a cheap safe that can be opened with a potato. There is one on Soi 13/1 between beach road and 2nd road. I know there are others. The down side, your things are only available while they are open.

 

If your hotel only has the cheap safe available. Let management know that you are not happy with the sub standard safe supplied. Don't just bitch to the girl behind the desk, it will go in one ear, and out the other. You might even ask for a discount to cover the cost of a private safety deposit box.

 

Carrying large sums of cash while on holiday is never a good idea. You should still have enough to get threw a couple of days, plus give a decent bribe to an official if the case arises. I would suggest a mix of cash, credit cards, ATM card, and travelers checks. If there is an in room safe, and a behind the desk safe, you could split your valuables between the two. At least you would have half of your stuff, if robbed.

 

If you don't have a credit card, you can get a prepaid credit card easily. I used one once. Credit cards are easily canceled if lost or stolen, but who has the number to call with them? I tried a prepaid card, and had my son put $400 on it when ever I needed it. Thinking if it ever turned up missing, I wouldn't be out much if it took a while for me to notice it missing, or to call and cancel. I gave it up after I found that they charged a $10 international ATM fee. I used the remainder of the money on it to pay my FLB bar tabs, as Point of Sale didn't have a fee. It is an option.

 

I once traveled all over Asia with a one ounce gold coin in the coin pocket of my Levi's. Gold is good anywhere in the world, it was a good "in case of emergency" amount, and I figured if ever robbed, no one would go for the small change. I went threw airport security with it mixed in with my change several times, it was never noticed by any one. It was still in my pocket when I got home.

[davethailand 91]

mate , your barking up the wrong tree .

 

sounds to me like you got fucked over by an insider in your hotel while you were out .

 

these safes are not easy to open and i cant see any gogo girl being able to do so quickly and quietly enough while you were in the room .

 

also why didnt you find the 100,000 b and saved work on her .

 

why do your hotel say there are no tapes .

 

what however has her actions , should she turn out to be guilty , have to do with her bar , the bar owner and her mamasan .

 

all they can do is give you positive identification but you already have that .

My thoughts also. The hotel also have the master keys to get in the boxes.

[captcraig2 120]

I think the butler did it and he used the candle stick....Could be wrong......All this for 100k baht?...... Dude I spend that in one night on the town....But that's how I roll!

[JONPAT 222]

Doesn't take much proof for most of you guys to convict this girl. I'd bet it could have been an inside job just a easily as a bar girl having the nuts to bust a safe while the guy is in the shower. Sure she is a bad girl, they all are, that is why we go to Pattaya. I'd imagine the OP has told plenty of people in the hotel how much is in the safe.

 

What does all smashed up inside mean? I can't understand that.

 

If her finureprints match up to what the police have then they'll get their cut and the OP is still out his money.

[js007 795]

Okay guy's for the people without Thai bank accounts (2 Week millionaires) and the people who keep there bank books, small laptops, I pods, portable hardrives and passports in there what is your suggestion then? carry all this stuff around? maybe you are right about the safes but what alternative is there? I would like to hear some PRACTICAL suggestions

 

Practical suggestions?

 

Don't bring to Thailand anything you can't afford to lose. Perhaps, buy some insurance that will cover laptops, cameras, and the like. Use ATMs if you must, and pay the charges to you home bank. Use travelers checks, not cash.

[Hollywood 5]

Hotel safes are easy to get into happens in Philippines all the time, best to keep valuables in your pockets when you go out.

[Hub 203]

Most Thai ATM's themselves will only give 20,000 baht at a time. Put 10,000 in your pocket, and 10,000 in the hotel safe. Credit cards will work in ATM's as well, and many places will do point of sell with credit cards.

 

Defiantly let your card company know you are going to Thailand. Many people get here and find their credit cards frozen by the bank because charges started to come in from Thailand. The bank will call your contact number to see if the charges are authorized, but because you are not there to take the call, they put a freeze on the card.

 

I would suggest a mix of cash, credit cards, ATM card, and travelers checks. If there is an in room safe, and a behind the desk safe, you could split your valuables between the two. At least you would have half of your stuff, if robbed.

 

If you don't have a credit card, you can get a prepaid credit card easily. I used one once. Credit cards are easily canceled if lost or stolen, but who has the number to call with them?

 

Good advice, I would just add that I usually keep an ATM card on me and one in the hotel safe, just in case something like this happens.

 

When I remember, I email bank/CC Telephone #s (as well as other emergency #s) to myself before a trip, in case something happens I can just pop online to get them.

 

I would feel nervous leaving that much cash in any safe.

[Gary 4,119]

Just today I spent a lot of time trying to open my little electronic safe. The batteries died and there was not enough power to work the internal solenoid. The safe is the type that has a keyhole under a hidden plastic cover. The potato or wooden mallet trick may work if the safe isn't fastened down but mine is bolted through the wall. My wife had the keys hidden and couldn't remember where she hid them. I think the secret to keeping these electronic safes somewhat secure is to have them securely fastened down.

 

I was debating getting my angle grinder out and cutting the bolts off through the door but decided to give her some more time to find the key. She eventually found the key so all ended well. And, yes I watched the video as well as Googling other sure fire solutions. I came to the conclusion that if the safe is securely bolted down, there is no easy way to open it. I expect the angle grinder could cut it open within 15 or 20 minutes but that would be VERY messy and noisy.

[blacknight 5]

Hotel safes are easy to get into happens in Philippines all the time, best to keep valuables in your pockets when you go out.

 

If you stay in the ABC hotel in AC their in room safes are actually linked to the front desk system and they can give you a print out of when the safe was opened and how long for. Also tell you who has accessed your room and when. Manager says they have never had any problems of theft since system was installed.